Barefoot Winter Challenge - 2011

Copy of the thread from the Canada Forum on the old site:

Links to the spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...GJPRTd5Q2tGWEhoTzV6V0ZIRUNsNHc&hl=en_GB#gid=0

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...JPRTd5Q2tGWEhoTzV6V0ZIRUNsNHc&hl=en_GB#gid=16

Barefoot YOW
This morning, we had our first frost of the season. That means it is time again for the 'Barefoot Winter Challenge'. An exploration of barefoot running in Winter conditions. Feel free to add your running experiences and help us track how members cope with running BAREFOOT in the winter.

A winter run is any run under 5°C (41°F)



How to participate:

1. http://bit.ly/n1I52I

- use this link to access the Google Spreadsheet

- add your name and location

- add the number of runs in each of the temperature ranges (spreadsheet calculates the totals)

- add your coldest (wind chill) barefoot run (use °C or °F column --- as the spreadsheet does the conversion)

2. http://bit.ly/obcgG2

- use this link to access the Google Map

- add your location and MemberID



I will add a posting to this thread each week, with charts, to show our progress through the Winter.

Note: Please use the temperature including wind chill

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Last year Smelph had the most runs (25)

Barefooting Bob had the coldest (-29C or -20F)

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Have fun and more importantly run safely,

Sep 17, 2011 Edit

Smelph
aw yeah, baby! Here we

aw yeah, baby! Here we go!

:bigsmile:

:beer:

UPDATE: can't edit either of those to add myself. might need to make them public and open to anyone who has the link.

Sep 17, 2011 Edit

Barefoot YOW
Sorry Troy,I set the

Sorry Troy,

I set the visibility but not the 'edit' access. Try now.

Sep 17, 2011 Edit

Barefooting Bob
Does 26.2 miles in very

Does 26.2 miles in very chilly conditions in Bismark, ND count (no frost though).

Sep 17, 2011 Edit

Barefoot YOW
Bob ... There you go again

Bob ... There you go again pushing the envelope
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Sep 19, 2011 Edit

Barefooting Bob
Isn't that we are suppose to

Isn't that we are suppose to do? Push the envelope, etc. ;-)

Sep 20, 2011 Edit

Barefooting Bob
Don't see where I enter the

Don't see where I enter the temp and the miles or am I just blind. :steve:

Sep 20, 2011 Edit

Smelph
temps and number of runs are

temps and number of runs are there, but there isn't a spot for mileage. If we could split all the cells below the temp range row, we could have a number of runs column and a mileage column for each temperature category. Or we could just add a column for total mileage below freezing and just enter it by hand (meaning we'd have to add the miles ourselves as they accumulate).

on a side note, Bob are you excited to have the Jets back in Winnipeg? Sounds like an awesome place for hockey! ;)

Sep 20, 2011 Edit

Christian Barefooteur
Sounds like fun ! Won't get

Sounds like fun ! Won't get quite as cold here in Paris, compared to Canada, but I'm game ;-)

I'm assuming no socks allowed ?

Christian

Sep 20, 2011 Edit

Barefooting Bob
Smelph wrote:temps and

Smelph said:

temps and number of runs are there, but there isn't a spot for mileage. If we could split all the cells below the temp range row, we could have a number of runs column and a mileage column for each temperature category. Or we could just add a column for total mileage below freezing and just enter it by hand (meaning we'd have to add the miles ourselves as they accumulate).

on a side note, Bob are you excited to have the Jets back in Winnipeg? Sounds like an awesome place for hockey! ;)


Absolutely excited :bigsmile: moved here 2 years before they flew the coop to Phoenix. I was originally from Calgary, so I missed going to NHL games for the last 15 years. Quite the buzz around here, sold out the season tickets for the next 4 years in under 15 minutes (this included processing time). First preseason game is tonight, I was planning on going barefoot for the occasion. ;-)


Sep 20, 2011 Edit

Barefoot YOW
I added columns to allow each

I added columns to allow each member to record the distance (km) in each temperature range. We should now be able to better track distance and temperatures.

If you have any suggestions please post them. I'll get around to modifying the spreadsheet.

Sep 20, 2011 Edit

Barefoot TJ
I hope you all don't mind if

I hope you all don't mind if I join you this year. It won't be terribly cold here for another couple of weeks or so though, so I won't have anything to report for a little while. I'm thinking about having surgery this winter too, so I won't get in as many runs as you guys do, but I'll shoot for low temps instead. :)

Sep 20, 2011 Edit

rickwhitelaw
Sounds fun. I'll give it a

Sounds fun. I'll give it a try. Expecting our first frost any day now.

Sep 21, 2011 Edit

Smelph
Barefooting Bob

Barefooting Bob said:

Absolutely excited :bigsmile: moved here 2 years before they flew the coop to Phoenix. I was originally from Calgary, so I missed going to NHL games for the last 15 years. Quite the buzz around here, sold out the season tickets for the next 4 years in under 15 minutes (this included processing time). First preseason game is tonight, I was planning on going barefoot for the occasion. ;-)

awesome! I hope the game was fun! (haven't checked the scores or anything yet this morning) ;)


Sep 21, 2011 Edit

kanichol
Sweet. I'll definitely add

Sweet. I'll definitely add mine if we run in the cold temperatures. I briefly ran barefoot today. It was 4 C, but it was only for about 10 meters. My wife and I were just trying running on gravel on a pathway. It wasn't fun yet. Laff

Oct 15, 2011 Edit

Theresa
Whoo hoo. I'm in if I can

Whoo hoo. I'm in if I can make the spreadsheet thing work. :)

Oct 15, 2011 Edit

pbarker
Hopefully my feet have better

Hopefully my feet have better circulation than last year. :beer:

Oct 16, 2011 Edit

Smelph
man, you canadians are

man, you canadians are getting an early start! I'm really going to have to pour it on once the snow flies here! We haven't been below 40 yet! ;)

Oct 16, 2011 Edit

kanichol
Just got in a -1° C run. The

Just got in a -1° C run. The forecast said it was going to be 8° C. Ah well. Not too bad so far.

Oct 21, 2011 Edit

barefoot ramzev
I added my info although

I added my info although it'll be a month or so before temps in Balmy Delaware get that low.

Oct 21, 2011 Edit

Barefooting Bob
Smelph wrote:man, you

Smelph said:

man, you canadians are getting an early start! I'm really going to have to pour it on once the snow flies here! We haven't been below 40 yet! ;)

We are finally starting to see some temps worth talking about in Manitoba, heading out tomorrow morning for a good 10 miler temps should be below 5 degrees. Missed some negative numbers this week but recovering from the weekend.


Oct 21, 2011 Edit

Barefoot TJ
It's supposed to be 36 F/2 C

It's supposed to be 36 F/2 C tomorrow morning at 8:00 when I go to meet my shoddie running club for our October Grand Prix. I haven't even had a chance to acclimate to temps that low yet. Yikes! I'll be there because I called the babysitter already. Yikes again!

Oct 21, 2011 Edit

Barefooting Bob
You will be fine TJ just wear

You will be fine TJ just wear some nice warm socks till just before you start your run then pull them off and set those toes free.. :bigsmile:

Oct 21, 2011 Edit

Barefoot TJ
Yes, thanks Bob. I

Yes, thanks Bob. I definietly will be doing that. I actually thought I'd bring a little portable heater and set it near the start line. ;-) Can you see all the shoddies giving me hell for that one?

Oct 21, 2011 Edit

Barefoot YOW
Just watch out for the

Just watch out for the extension cord .... can you say pile up?

Oct 22, 2011 Edit

Barefoot TJ
Well, I made it. My first

Well, I made it. My first cold run of the season. It was 41 degrees at the start. I ran the first 2/3 of the 5K in my socks and huaraches, and then finished the last 1/3 barefoot. Not so bad. I wore extra layers, lots of hooding, and was so warm that my feet were also warm. After I had stopped running though, my feet got cold pretty quick, but nothing terrible that forced me to seek shelter. ;-)

Oct 22, 2011 Edit

Barefooting Bob
That's the way to break em

That's the way to break em in. I also bet some of the looks you got were priceless.

Got a 10km race tomorrow for Kid's Literacy, going freak some people out with the bare tootsies, and a big 'Run Smiley' tattoo (drawn on) my right arm. Goin' have some fun tomorrow. Should be about 2 degrees (Celcius that is). ;-)

Oct 22, 2011 Edit

Barefoot YOW
Very cool TJ. Getting the

Very cool TJ. Getting the first one under your belt breaks the pyshological barrier. The dropped jaws of the other competitors is most definitely rewarding.

As Bob said, you used an excellent strategy. Warm up those tooties and then go bare.

Thanks for entering your data on the spreadsheet.

Oct 23, 2011 Edit

Barefoot TJ
Two years ago, when I got

Two years ago, when I got down to 27 F/3 C, I got a lot of stares and some, "Are you crazy!" ies too! ;-) I just reply, "Yes, I am." This year, I will add, "But I'm in treatment for it!" Hee.

Oct 23, 2011 Edit

Barefoot YOW

Update - Oct 23 2011

Coldest run = -1°C (30.2°F) kanichol
Most runs = 2 (kanichol and BarefootYOW)
Most distance = 42.4 km (BarefootingBob)

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See the following charts, taken from the Challenge Spreadsheet. Be sure to update the spreadsheet and look forward to next Sunday's update.

Oct 23, 2011 Edit

Barefooting Bob
Just finished a 4 degree C.

Just finished a 4 degree C. 10km run this morning. Even got a running buddy of mine to lose his shoes. :lol: We were the :cool:ones

Oct 23, 2011 Edit

Barefoot TJ
Being lazy here, but is there

Being lazy here, but is there a field for the longest, lowest temp barefoot run?

Oct 23, 2011 Edit

Paleo
Leave it to Canadians to make

Leave it to Canadians to make a virtue out of cold!!! I love this.

I have just entered my first run. But, living in Bonn, I have very little chance of getting an entry in anything lower than the 0 to -5 category. But, our winters hover around 0. So, I should be able to make a good showing.

Cheers

Jamie

Oct 29, 2011 Edit

Barefoot YOW
I added a section for Members

I added a section for Members to enter longest-coldest run.

Good idea
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Tj --- it will add an interesting stat at the end of winter


Oct 31, 2011 Edit

Barefoot YOW
Update: Oct 30 2011Coldest

Coldest Run = -6°C (21.2°F) BarfootYOW
Most Distance = 71km BarefootingBob
MostRuns = 7 BarefootYOW

Link to spreadsheet = https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...GJPRTd5Q2tGWEhoTzV6V0ZIRUNsNHc&hl=en_GB#gid=0


Oct30_distance.png



Oct30_temp_range.png



Oct 31, 2011 Edit

Barefoot TJ
I guess I was thinking along

I guess I was thinking along the lines of Barefoot Rick running marathons in the snow and ice in single digits.

Now, to increase my little blue smudge above...

Oct 31, 2011 Edit

Barefooting Bob
I'm still waiting for some

I'm still waiting for some decent cold temps. I feel kind of strange being in Manitoba and not having a negative number in the temp column.

Oct 31, 2011 Edit

Barefoot TJ
Thank you, YOW. The lowest

Thank you, YOW. The lowest I've gone was 27F when it was dry. I wonder how many opportunities I will have this winter, since I am thinking about getting the MN surgery over with in January.

Oct 31, 2011 Edit

Barefoot YOW
TJ - The best I did, last

TJ - The best I did, last winter, was 18K at -12C ( 11.2 miles @ 10.4F) I'm a long way from Barefoot Rick.

I'm sure that little blue smudge will be moving along quite nicely .... Looks like the East Coast is in for another strong winter.

Nov 5, 2011 Edit

Barefoot YOW
Frosty toes? Add your cold

Frosty toes? Add your cold weather runs to the BRS spreadsheet. I'll update the summary on Sunday evening.



https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...GJPRTd5Q2tGWEhoTzV6V0ZIRUNsNHc&hl=en_GB#gid=0
Barefoot Winter Challenge - 2011

pbarker
I may have entered a

I may have entered a nonqualifing run.



A 5k @-14c with wind chill. Here is a picture of my feet.. I have been wearing these socks for running. great road feel with cover to keep the foot comfortable. Waiting your ruling.



Nov 5, 2011 Edit

Barefoot YOW
@pbarker -- Based upon the

@pbarker -- Based upon the condition of those socks ... I'd say Yes
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Nov 6, 2011 Edit

Smelph
damn dude! you guys have

damn dude! you guys have that much snow already?!

Nov 6, 2011 Edit

Barefooting Bob
I'm saying the same thing,

I'm saying the same thing, not a stitch of the white stuff here, I am almost thinking we are being passed by or something. No snow in Winnipeg on Nov. 6, crap how am I suppose to get my game on.

Nov 6, 2011 Edit

pbarker
Thanks yow.I will be ok if

Thanks yow.

I will be ok if you change your mind.


Like dogs paws with bare pads and fur on tops. I may post something on my blog about the socks.

My wife wants me to burn the socks but in my mind they are now in great shape.

Nov 6, 2011 Edit

Barefoot TJ
Maybe a denotation (*) to the

Maybe a denotation (*) to the entry for wearing socks?

Nov 6, 2011 Edit

Barefoot YOW
Update for Week Ending Nov 06

Most Runs = 13 (Barefoot YOW)
Most Distance = 103km (Barefoot YOW)
Coldest Run = -14°C/6.8°F (pbarker *in scraggly socks)

(reminder to be sure to add coldest and longest-coldest run to the spreadsheet)


Nov06_distance.png




Nov06_temp_range.png





Nov 6, 2011 Edit

pbarker
Yow nice start. I think

Yow nice start.



I think the * is a good idea TJ



Everyone, hope cold weather comes your way :)



I posted in my blog about the socks



"My Latest Obsession"

Nov 6, 2011 Edit

Barefooting Bob
Had my first below 0 degree

Had my first below 0 degree run tonight, a good 6km in -4 degree temps in the dark. Finally I have hit the dark side.

Nov 10, 2011 Edit

Barefoot TJ
Congrats! How far did you

Congrats! How far did you go? How did it feel?

Nov 10, 2011 Edit

Barefooting Bob
Barefoot TJ wrote:Congrats!

Barefoot TJ said:

Congrats! How far did you go? How did it feel?


Just over 6km would of been longer but without a head lamp I didn't trust to run to much more in the dark. Felt awesome though to be able to get that first negative run out of the way for the season. Bare roads though, we have little to no snow.


Nov 11, 2011 Edit

Barefoot TJ
It's still not too cold down

It's still not too cold down here. Strange season. Normally this time of year, it's in the 30s and 40s. We've had lots of sun and 40s to 60s.

Nov 11, 2011 Edit

Barefoot YOW
Update for Week ending Nov 13 2011

Coldest = -14C (6.8F) by Pbarker
Most runs = 15 by Barefoot YOW
Most distance = 119km (74 mi)

Nov13_temp_range.png


Nov13_distance.png




Nov 13, 2011 Edit

Smelph
you guys better watch out up

you guys better watch out up there in the Great White North..... our temps are supposed to fall real quick here and I'm chomping at the bit to lay down some miles! daytime highs in the low 40s means morning runs below freezing! yeee haaa!

Nov 16, 2011 Edit

Paleo
I want to make sure I am

I want to make sure I am reporting correctly:

Does a run qualify if the temperature goes below 5 during the run? Or does it have to be 5 or below for the entire run?

Cheers

Paleo

Nov 16, 2011 Edit

Smelph
I usually check before I head

I usually check before I head out.

Nov 16, 2011 Edit

Barefooting Bob
Paleo wrote:I want to make

Paleo said:

I want to make sure I am reporting correctly:

Does a run qualify if the temperature goes below 5 during the run? Or does it have to be 5 or below for the entire run?

Cheers

Paleo


I usually make a judgement call, if the start temp is at 6 degrees and the temp drops that counts in my books (but I would try to estimate the kms below if I can) if you start at 5 degrees and the temp goes up then I don't count it. That has been my problem so far this year, I have a number of runs that were started at 2 or 3 degrees but the temps quickly rose to 8 or 9 degrees. Oh well the negatives have started so I figure I will get some good ones in quickly. They are forcasting for -18 base temp for the weekend.


Nov 16, 2011 Edit

pbarker
I have removed my -14c run in

I have removed my -14c run in socks. It was an interesting experiment but I think it changes the game if I leave it in. :)

Today I ran and was stopped three times with questions. Running barefoot in the winter attracts a lot of attention.

Nov 16, 2011 Edit

Barefooting Bob
I had that a lot last year,

I had that a lot last year, and a lot of 'slowly back away from the crazy guy with no shoes'.

Calgary is a interesting town to run barefoot in. I had a blast there last summer running the trails along the Bow River.

Nov 16, 2011 Edit

pbarker
here is my run todayHeard

here is my run today

Heard there was someone running barefoot last summer, running in from Edworthy in the morning. Was that you Bob.




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Barefooting Bob
Not sure where Edworthy is, I

Not sure where Edworthy is, I was mainly running around my buddies place in Ogden, utilizing the running/bike trails that go into the river valley towards Memorial and heading downtown. I was there for about a week the beginning of August. Actually while I'm thinking about it PB, you do the Ironman there in Calgary right? I am starting training and am thinking about one for 2013, but if Calgary is a half Ironman is it not?

Nov 16, 2011 Edit

pbarker
Must have been another runner

Must have been another runner I was think about.

We have two half IM here Calgary 70.3, chinook half,

Good luck in 2013

Nov 17, 2011 Edit

Barefoot TJ
I ran 2 miles in 43 degrees F

I ran 2 miles in 43 degrees F tonight, no biggie. I think my lowest was the previous recorded 41 degrees. Am I supposed to record this run too, or just those runs that are lower than my current year's record low?

BTW, it was very windy, and I dressed mega warmly, and I was very hot while running. My feet felt pretty comfy, and by the end of the 2 miles, they were actually very warm on top and warm on the bottoms. Nice.

Nov 17, 2011 Edit

Barefooting Bob
Barefoot TJ wrote:I ran 2

Barefoot TJ said:

I ran 2 miles in 43 degrees F tonight, no biggie. I think my lowest was the previous recorded 41 degrees. Am I supposed to record this run too, or just those runs that are lower than my current year's record low?

BTW, it was very windy, and I dressed mega warmly, and I was very hot while running. My feet felt pretty comfy, and by the end of the 2 miles, they were actually very warm on top and warm on the bottoms. Nice.

TJ you are suppose to log any run at 41 degrees F (5 degrees C) or under including the wind chill, do you know what the temp was with the windchill (I am assuming it was a cold wind), you might of achieved a new personal record low.


Nov 17, 2011 Edit

Peanut
Ran 3 miles in 29F

Ran 3 miles in 29F Barefoot.

Only part that was a problem was my large left toe???

I wore long straight leg yoga pants, a winter long sleeved top, lined wind breaker, gloves and hat.

I have Raynauds and was surprised I did so well.

For those who also have Raynauds - I have found that if my core is warm the extremities do better. If I get a chill up the spine - I'm done. That's when I get the blue lips, hands and feet.

I love running BF. We get cold winters here. Sooner or later I will end up at the local indoor track so I can not have to wear shoes. but I hope it is later!

Peanut

Nov 18, 2011 Edit

Smelph
core warmth is good for

core warmth is good for everyone whether they have Raynaud's or not so that's good advice for everybody. ;)

Nov 18, 2011 Edit

Barefoot TJ
So I went from 1 run at 1.6

So I went from 1 run at 1.6 miles (41 degrees F) and changed it to 2 runs total 3.6 miles (43 degrees F). Is this correct?

Nov 18, 2011 Edit

Barefoot YOW
TJ -- That's the way to use

TJ -- That's the way to use the spreadsheet ....

Cummulative number of runs in each temperature range.

Cummulative distance in each temperature range.

Note:

We leave it up to each individual to judge whether their run qualifies as a cold weather run.

ie

I start my 2 hr at 7am and it is -8C, and at 8am it is -4C. I could record it as the following:

1. One (1) run at an average of -6C

2. One (1) run at -8C AND one (1) run at -4C, using the corresponding distances



The highest temperature is +5C (41F), but I still think cold and wet sub 50F is a winter run. I find those to be the most difficult. Others can give their 2 cents worth.

Nov 18, 2011 Edit

Barefooting Bob
Completely agreed, a sub 50

Completely agreed, a sub 50 degree F run in a humid climate or on a damp day (say Orgeon or Washington) can be just as cold or colder than a dry cold in which I usually run at 30 to 40 degrees F. Its all relative.

Nov 18, 2011 Edit

Barefoot YOW
Frosty Update: Week ending Nov 20 2011

Coldest run = 20°F or -6.7°C (Smelph)
Most runs = 17 (Barefoot YOW)
Most distance = 90.7 mi or 146 km (Barefoot YOW)

Nov20_temp_range.png






Nov 20, 2011 Edit

Barefoot YOW
It was a warm week in my neck

It was a warm week in my neck of the woods. No snow yet, which means no salt yet either.
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Nov 20, 2011 Edit

Barfuß Chelsea
Sweet, I want in on this!

Sweet, I want in on this! I've been pretty MIA lately so I didn't see this until now, but I have three runs in the 0-5 degree range from last week that I just tried to enter. Problem is, I'm pretty clueless when it comes to Exel and the like, and I feel like I may have screwed something up. Or I just didn't do it right. Help, please! :innocent:

Nov 21, 2011 Edit

Barefooting Bob
Barfuß Chelsea wrote:Sweet,

Barfuß Chelsea said:

Sweet, I want in on this! I've been pretty MIA lately so I didn't see this until now, but I have three runs in the 0-5 degree range from last week that I just tried to enter. Problem is, I'm pretty clueless when it comes to Exel and the like, and I feel like I may have screwed something up. Or I just didn't do it right. Help, please! :innocent:

Chelsea,

I took a look at the spread sheet, the info you entered looks ok, I think you are right on track for your entries.



On a side note, we have just gone back to the dark side (temps are back above zero), and we are expecting temps of above 5 degrees C tomorrow and the rest of the week, bye bye snow. Man this is a really weird winter so far.


Nov 22, 2011 Edit

Barefoot TJ
It is weird here too. It's

It is weird here too. It's very warm here in Georgia, and for this time of year that isn't "normal."

Nov 22, 2011 Edit

Barefoot YOW
Barfuß Chelsea wrote:Sweet,

Barfuß Chelsea said:

Sweet, I want in on this! I've been pretty MIA lately so I didn't see this until now, but I have three runs in the 0-5 degree range from last week that I just tried to enter. Problem is, I'm pretty clueless when it comes to Exel and the like, and I feel like I may have screwed something up. Or I just didn't do it right. Help, please! :innocent:



Barfuß Chelsea - a minor hickup to the spreadsheet, but easily corrected. Now that there is a line for your information, all you have to do is add your cumulative runs and distance. Be sure to add:
1. coldest temperature in cell S28

2. longest cold run in cells U28 & V28

PS

Glad you're joining us in this whacky game


Nov 22, 2011 Edit

Barfuß Chelsea
Thanks, guys! Yesterday was

Thanks, guys! Yesterday was my first run in negative temps (only -1 ;), but it was frosty!) and I had to cut the planned 10k down to 4k because despite lots of layers and Vaseline, the feet just wouldn't warm up. I'm thinking it may have something to do with the time of day. It seems that my feet have more trouble warming up when I go running first thing in the morning than in the evening. Possibly because the needed circulation needs a day of moving and walking around to really get going? Or then again, maybe it's just the difference in ground temp? Anyone else noticed this?

Nov 23, 2011 Edit

Smelph
how much cold weather have

how much cold weather have you run in previous to the one the other day? I've found I need to "follow the season" so to speak, and bring my feet down along with the temperatures. If I don't go out barefoot for a while and then decide to try a below freezing run my feet make me pay for it ;)

Nov 23, 2011 Edit

Peanut
LOL Do I win on oldest female

LOL Do I win on oldest female cold BR runs. LOL

Nov 24, 2011 Edit

Barefooting Bob
Peanut wrote:LOL Do I win on

Peanut said:

LOL Do I win on oldest female cold BR runs. LOL

Bahhhah, you don't look a day over 29, who are you trying to kid.


Nov 25, 2011 Edit

Peanut
@ Bob - Such a nice young

@ Bob - Such a nice young man. Your Mama taught you well!



@ Chelsea - you said you used vaseline. I tried menthalatum once and all it did was make a mess. I had leaves and grass etc stuck to it all over my feet, took a lot of soap to get it all off and didn't do a thing to help keep the warmth in.



Actually it was rather funny looking.
Barefoot Winter Challenge - 2011
Barfuß Chelsea
@Smelph: The four cold

@Smelph: The four cold weather runs I've entered are the first of the season. (It stayed surprisingly warm here through the beginning of fall, and then all at once, BAM! Winter arrived!) Last winter I had just started bf running, so I was forced to slowly ease into the cold, as I was still easing into bf running in general.

@Peanut: The Vaseline can make quite a mess as well as I tend to smear it on quite thickly, but it usually seems to help, especially if there's wind!

Nov 26, 2011 Edit

Peanut
Chelsea = do you put it on

Chelsea = do you put it on the bottoms of your feet or just the top?

Nov 26, 2011 Edit

DavidP
Question: The temp ranges

Question: The temp ranges overlap. If I run at 0C/32F which column do I use? I'm in the Davis BF survey study so I'm pushing it this winter as at leasty 50% of my mileage needs to be BF.

I assume the challege is for bare uncovered feet on ground? Otherwise it would seem to lose the challege aspect. My coldest run has been 27F and I find if I do some 20 or so squats and a 100up inside and head right outside running my feet have been fine. These have all been dry runs though, I'll be really cautious the first wet day I attempt sub-40s. The huaraches will be in my pocket.

~David

Nov 26, 2011 Edit

Barefoot YOW
DavidP wrote:Question: The

DavidP said:

Question: The temp ranges overlap. If I run at 0C/32F which column do I use? I'm in the Davis BF survey study so I'm pushing it this winter as at leasty 50% of my mileage needs to be BF.

I assume the challege is for bare uncovered feet on ground? Otherwise it would seem to lose the challege aspect. My coldest run has been 27F and I find if I do some 20 or so squats and a 100up inside and head right outside running my feet have been fine. These have all been dry runs though, I'll be really cautious the first wet day I attempt sub-40s. The huaraches will be in my pocket.

~David


David

- we leave it up to you to decide if the 32F run goes into the higher or lower range. Personally, I'd throw into the lower range.

- yes, this challenge is for barefoot running/walking



Peanut: I'm with Bob on this one ... no way you're 62. Keep having fun!!


Nov 27, 2011 Edit

DavidP
"I'd throw into the lower

"I'd throw into the lower range"

I did!

I'm actually bummed because it is going to be unseasonably warm here this week!



~David.

Nov 27, 2011 Edit

Barefoot TJ
All you people complaining of

All you people complaining of the warmth this time of year! Go figure! ;-)

Nov 27, 2011 Edit

Barefooting Bob
Barefoot TJ wrote:All you

Barefoot TJ said:

All you people complaining of the warmth this time of year! Go figure! ;-)

It does seem kind of silly doesn't it.

But today I was complaining about the freeze, thaw, freeze. Nothing worse, cause it turns the snow and ice into almost (and I say almost) not barefoot runable. Oh well, what can you do.


Nov 27, 2011 Edit

Barefoot TJ
It's still warm down here.

It's still warm down here. Very odd for this time of year. Very odd.

Nov 27, 2011 Edit

Peanut
Personally, I LOVE the warmer

Personally, I LOVE the warmer temps. It is strange to have it warmer longer but I LOVE THE WARMTH!!!!

Nov 28, 2011 Edit

Barfuß Chelsea
@ Peanut: Just the tops and

@ Peanut: Just the tops and sides. I'd never actually thought of putting it on the bottoms before because it would just rub off the toes, ball, and heel in a matter of minutes. Still, I wonder if putting it under the arches would help insulate even more? Might be worth a try at some point. Or has anyone else tried it?

Nov 28, 2011 Edit

dutchie53
Barefooting Bob

Barefooting Bob said:


Barefoot TJ said:

All you people complaining of the warmth this time of year! Go figure! ;-)

It does seem kind of silly doesn't it.

But today I was complaining about the freeze, thaw, freeze. Nothing worse, cause it turns the snow and ice into almost (and I say almost) not barefoot runable. Oh well, what can you do.



I agree with you Bob. Was out this afternoon, but the slush mixed with that gravel that they call sand made me shorten my run to 1km. Back to the vff's


Nov 28, 2011 Edit

Barefoot YOW
Update for week ending Nov 27 2011

Coldest = Smelph (-6.7C or 20F)
Most Runs = Barefoot YOW (17)
Most Distance = Barefoot YOW (146km or 90 mi)


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Nov 28, 2011 Edit

Barefoot YOW
I had a bad week. I

I had a bad week. I developed a blister deep in my forefoot and had to take the week off. Back running on the weekend but it was warm.

Good to see more folks going in
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Nov 28, 2011 Edit

Barefoot TJ
I would think putting

I would think putting anything sticky like Vaseline on the bottoms of your feet would cause debris to stick to them and make your run lousy.

Nov 28, 2011 Edit

Kittyk
Okay, I really need to get

Okay, I really need to get out there. Umm.. wondering if the temperature will drop enough this week? What am I saying! Rod, it's all your fault, I never used to look for cold weather until you started this challenge. Darn you! ;)

Nov 29, 2011 Edit

Kittyk
Managed my first meserly 3K

Managed my first meserly 3K run today in +5C temps. I know - hardcore. However, I do kind of qualify.

Hopefully out earlier tomorrow to perhaps snag a 0C or lower tomorrow. Still going to be slow and not very far.

Dec 1, 2011 Edit

Barefoot YOW
Update for week end Dec 04 2011

KittyK is on the board!!!

Coldest = -6.7C or 21F (Smelph)
Most Runs = 22 (Barefoot YOW)
Most Distance = 177 km or 110 mi (Barefoot YOW)

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Dec 4, 2011 Edit

Barefoot YOW
Executives lead the way! I

Executives lead the way! I hope members notice that all three of the big cheese for BRS have recorded winter runs. Not bad for people that don't live in truly winter regions.

Congrats TJ, KittyK, and Paleo

Dec 4, 2011 Edit

Barefoot TJ
I'm sorry I may not be able

I'm sorry I may not be able to get in any more, perhaps even this winter. I'm seeing a doctor about having surgery tomorrow. Wish me luck!

Dec 5, 2011 Edit

rickwhitelaw
Good Luck TJ, hope everything

Good Luck TJ, hope everything goes well.

OK, everyone doing these cold weather runs has just earned a high level of my respect. I just got back from a cold run "attempt". Ten degrees F on snow pack. I tried to do everything right. I bundled up, warmed up with 1/2 mile in shoes. Felt good, took off the shoes and made it 200 yards. Tops of the toes were cold! Put the shoes on and headed for home. By the time I got home, I was warm, so I headed down the driveway again. Made it about half a kilometer. Feet were numb and stabbing pains in the calves. Not much fun, but feeling the snow pack was nice, it covered the gravel.

So can you more experienced cold weather runners give some of us newbs some advice in a new thread?

Thanks,

Rick W.
Barefoot Winter Challenge - 2011
Barfuß Chelsea
Rick, my feet usually go

Rick, my feet usually go mostly numb in the beginning and then warm up as long as I keep moving. Some people say they only need about a kilometer and they're good to go, while I tend to need closer to three.

The difference between dry and wet running surfaces is also huge. Sometimes a wet run in the 5-10 degree range can be much more challenging than a dry run at below freezing temps. Last year I made the mistake of running through mud in the 5-10 degree range. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. I basically just caked the freezing on my feet. Then I changed my planned route to get home quicker and warm up but had to run over a 150 meter long grate bridge with my not-quite-numb-enough stumps. Can you say OUCHIE?! That's one mistake I won't make again. :p

Dec 5, 2011 Edit

Barefoot TJ
Next time you go out for a

Next time you go out for a seriously cold run, Rick, you may be able to go a little farther. I found I could progress with distance/time a little bit more each time. It also helps if you can acclimate as the weather temps drop.

Dec 5, 2011 Edit

rickwhitelaw
Thanks for the advice, I had

Thanks for the advice, I had a much better run today. Made it 1 mile. (not far, but improving)

Things I did different:

1. A longer warm up. Ran 2 miles in shoes and made sure my toes were completely warm. They were cold until I did toe "scrunches" with every step.

2. Ran on dry pavement.

3. Colder temp. today (3 F.), but no wind.

4. Faster cadence, more forefoot, and trying to grab with the toes. Michael Sandler's "Tiger Claws"

Dec 6, 2011 Edit

Barefooting Bob
Just about broke the -20

Just about broke the -20 mark, just over a km at -19. Got to get that cold toe tolerence up again.

Dec 7, 2011 Edit

Kittyk
TJ, Hope the Doctors visit

TJ, Hope the Doctors visit went okay.

I agree with the weather/temp situation. The 5C run I did was on a damp pavement. I am still getting my winter feet here. It's been closer to freezing but damp here, so I have been more cautious (also have a spot of ezcema on one of my toes, waiting for that to heal first).

However, I am still braver this year than last. I have been running in the cold temps/damp with just my Invisible shoes and socks. Didn't manage this much at all last year. So I think the extra weight I am carrying because of my injury hiatus has been helping me keep warm ;)

Dec 8, 2011 Edit

Barefoot TJ
I will be having surgery, to

I will be having surgery, to cut the mothers out, left foot on January 6 and right foot on January 13. Wish me well, all! I'll let you all know how it goes when the time comes.

Dec 8, 2011 Edit

Barefoot YOW
@TJ- Quite a way to start the

@TJ- Quite a way to start the new year!! Best of luck with the surgeries. Hopefully that will be the end of it and you'll be piling on the miles soon.

@KittyK - I noticed my resistance to the cold is better this year. I managed to run 6k in slushy snow, and a couple of my runs have been wet and around 0°C. Glad to see you're healthy enough to get out for some runs.

@Rick - I think you're learning quickly. Dry pavement and increased cadence make a huge difference. As it has been said, your feet will take some time to heat up. For me, it is about 3-4km (2 miles). I find my feet go slightly numb. I pay close attention to my form, and wait for them to generate heat. If after 5k they are not warming up, I throw on some footwear.

@Bob - you're nuts!!

Dec 10, 2011 Edit

Barefoot TJ
Thanks, YOW!

Thanks, YOW!

Dec 10, 2011 Edit

Barefooting Bob
@ Yow, not nuts, just

@ Yow, not nuts, just slightly offcentre. ;-) :evil: :santa:

Dec 10, 2011 Edit

Barefoot YOW
As a group we did 18 runs

As a group we did 18 runs this week, with BarefootingBob, Rickwhitelaw, and Linda Peanut registering some very cold runs.

Coldest = Barefooting Bob at -19°C or -2.2°F

Most Distance = Barefoot YOW at 211 km or 131 miles

Most runs = Barefoot YOW at 26



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Dec 11, 2011 Edit

rickwhitelaw
Thanks for updating the

Thanks for updating the charts YOW. You should probably take my coldest runs off. They don't count if you get frostbite, right? The purple at the end of the bar in chart #1 looks like the tips of my toes. The -20C color should be black. I think I will keep my runs in the blue color (+5 to O C.) from now on.

Dec 12, 2011 Edit

Smelph
Damn! i didn't get

Damn! i didn't get yesterday's run entered in time!

Dec 12, 2011 Edit

Barefooting Bob
Just cranked out a little

Just cranked out a little over a km of my 9 km run barefoot at -24. Would of went farther but my feet were so warm they were sticking to the ice.

Dec 15, 2011 Edit

Barefoot YOW
Bob - yesterday, it was +10C

Bob - yesterday, it was +10C in Ottawa. Maybe I'll get a chance for colder runs on the weekend.

Dec 16, 2011 Edit

Barefooting Bob
Barefoot YOW wrote:Bob -

Barefoot YOW said:

Bob - yesterday, it was +10C in Ottawa. Maybe I'll get a chance for colder runs on the weekend.

We're suppose to be back up to 5 degrees by Sunday, weird winter


Dec 16, 2011 Edit

Smelph
Honorable mention for me: did

Honorable mention for me: did 8 miles in 29F in the snow today, but in huaraches (no socks though). Not counting it, but thought it was worth noting ;)

Dec 17, 2011 Edit

Kittyk
We have been above +5 by the

We have been above +5 by the time I have headed out. Also only just recovered from my ezcema on my toes. Hopefully next week the temperatures will drop.

Can't believe I am wishing for cold weather. Look what you guys have done to me!

Dec 17, 2011 Edit

Barefoot YOW
Update:It was a slow week

It was a slow week for the group. We managed 5 runs this week. Ol' man Winter may be starting to win the battle. I'm going to blame it on the Christmas shopping.

Coldest = BarefootingBob at -24C or -11F (damn that is cold!!!!)

Most runs = Barefoot YOW with 29

Most distance = Barefoot YOW with 239km or 148mi



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Dec 18, 2011 Edit

Barefoot YOW
Update: Dec 25th

Individual Stats:

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Coldest run = -24C/-11F (BarefootingBob)

Most runs = 32 (Barefoot YOW)

Most distance = 250 km (Barefoot YOW)

Group Stats:

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Total runs = 138

Total sub-freezing runs = 68

Total distance = 919.5 km (571 miles)

Number of members = 17 (with greater than 1 km)

Dec 29, 2011 Edit

Nyal
Hey! I am the furthest north!

Hey! I am the furthest north! Can't figure out how to add myself to the map.
Barefoot Winter Challenge - 2011
Smelph
I'm slowly but surely

I'm slowly but surely sneaking up on you YOW... ;)

Not that you still don't have a 12 run lead on me ;)

Dec 29, 2011 Edit

Barefooting Bob
Smelph wrote:I'm slowly but

Smelph said:

I'm slowly but surely sneaking up on you YOW... ;)Not that you still don't have a 12 run lead on me ;)


Winter Ninja style, I am sure Troy. ;-)


Dec 29, 2011 Edit

Barefoot YOW
Nyal wrote:Hey! I am the

Nyal said:

Hey! I am the furthest north! Can't figure out how to add myself to the map.


Yep, you certainly are the furthest north 59°+ Latitude. Your part of the world must be very beautiful.



I added you to the map. You need to be signed on with Gmail account.


Dec 29, 2011 Edit

Barefoot YOW

Update for Dec 31st


Group Stats:

This week: 5 runs for 29 km

Total Number of runs = 143

Total distance = 948.2 km



Individual Stats:

Coldest run* = -24°C (-11°F) by BarefootingBob

Most runs = 33 by Barefoot YOW

Most distance = 251 km (156 miles) by Barefoot YOW



*I did not count my run at -25°C as it was less than 1 km



Happy New Year
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Jan 1, 2012 Edit

Barefooting Bob
Yow, stop being so modest, my

Yow, stop being so modest, my jaunt at -24 was under a km as well, so therefore you now have the coldest run of 2011/2012. Now I have to get some colder weather so I can lower, because there is no way I will be able to catch your kms because they salt and sand everything around here, no clear places to run any significant distances and I like my feet the way they are, no burns like last year. ;-)

Jan 1, 2012 Edit

Barefooting Bob
Opps brain must of been

Opps brain must of been frozen, I forgot my run was just under a mile not a km, but anyways .75 km at -25 is still a good run, should not be discounted.

Also just finished my first BF run of 2012, just over a km at -19 only wearing a kilt, a touque and my ankle warmers and a big fat smile. Wind was nasty though.

Jan 1, 2012 Edit

Smelph
dude, you are crazy!

dude, you are crazy!

Jan 1, 2012 Edit

Barefoot YOW
Barefooting Bob wrote:Opps

Barefooting Bob said:

Opps brain must of been frozen, I forgot my run was just under a mile not a km, but anyways .75 km at -25 is still a good run, should not be discounted.

Also just finished my first BF run of 2012, just over a km at -19 only wearing a kilt, a touque and my ankle warmers and a big fat smile. Wind was nasty though.


Smelph said:

dude, you are crazy!

Isn't that a bit like the pot calling the kettle black?
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Jan 1, 2012 Edit

Barefooting Bob
See I am not crazy, just

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See I am not crazy, just the crazy one without shoes, oh yeah and no underwear. Kilt almost blew up and gave poor Fiona a full moon view at dawn.

Jan 1, 2012 Edit

dutchie53
Way to funny Bob. Was the

Way to funny Bob. Was the loony bin wagon waiting at the finish? LMAO

Jan 1, 2012 Edit

Barefoot TJ
YOW, go ahead and remove me

YOW, go ahead and remove me from the spreadsheet. I haven't been able to get any runs in. The neuromas are just way too painful anymore, not that the weather down here in Georgia can even be called winter, and I have my first surgery in five days, so I won't be able to really take part this winter.

Jan 1, 2012 Edit

Barefoot YOW
Barefoot TJ wrote:YOW, go

Barefoot TJ said:

YOW, go ahead and remove me from the spreadsheet. ... and I have my first surgery in five days, so I won't be able to really take part this winter.

No way TJ ... you have a recorded run and that is what counts. Anyone that ventures out in winter conditions deserves accolades. Best of luck with the surgery.


Jan 1, 2012 Edit

Barefoot TJ
I just didn't want to bring

I just didn't want to bring down the group's stats. Thanks for showing some love.

Jan 1, 2012 Edit

Barefooting Bob
TJ you belong on the list

TJ you belong on the list just as much as anyone else. I hope you have a very speedy recovery and I look forward to running with you soon. I am going to plan a trip to Georgia in the next year or so, so be ready. Hee hee. ;-)

Jan 1, 2012 Edit

Barefoot TJ
Oh boy, I better get in shape

Oh boy, I better get in shape then!

Jan 1, 2012 Edit

Smelph
Yeah well, Im not crazy

Yeah well, Im not crazy enough to go out there in my undies (or lack thereof, eh Bob?).

TJ, everyone counts even if they only go out there once. Seems to me a lot of folks get a little gun-shy as soon as the temps hit 45 degrees, so everyone who went out below that gets some bragging Rights ;)

Jan 1, 2012 Edit

Barefooting Bob
I say a to all that

I say a :crown: to all that participate (clothes or no clothes), because we are all winners in my books. Man that sounds a little corny doesn't it now.

Jan 1, 2012 Edit

moominmamma
Can i play? I haven't been on

Can i play? I haven't been on this site in forever, but I've just decided to make a serious effort at winter barefoot running and this fits right in with my penchant for tracking and graphing
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I added myself on the GoogleDoc. Hope that's okay. If not, feel free to delete me.



Miranda

Jan 2, 2012 Edit

Barefooting Bob
moominmamma wrote:Can i

moominmamma said:

Can i play? I haven't been on this site in forever, but I've just decided to make a serious effort at winter barefoot running and this fits right in with my penchant for tracking and graphing
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I added myself on the GoogleDoc. Hope that's okay. If not, feel free to delete me.



Miranda

The more the merrier Miranda, we could never delete someone from the list if you run san shoes in the winter you deserve to be on the list.

Happy Running,


Jan 3, 2012 Edit

Kittyk
What has happened to the

What has happened to the Canadian winter. We haven't had that many cold days here. In fact it was over 12C the other day.

Unfortunately it's meant the local city departments have been over enthusastic with the rock-salt. They seem to forget they don't need to lay it if it isn't freezing!

When the temp drops (and they skip on the rock-salt) I'll add another entry.
Barefoot Winter Challenge - 2011
Barefooting Bob
Kittyk wrote:What has

Kittyk said:

What has happened to the Canadian winter. We haven't had that many cold days here. In fact it was over 12C the other day.

Unfortunately it's meant the local city departments have been over enthusastic with the rock-salt. They seem to forget they don't need to lay it if it isn't freezing!

When the temp drops (and they skip on the rock-salt) I'll add another entry.

That is my problem out here as well, the city has been dumping a pile of sand/salt mix with the freeze/thaw that has been going on (it was 7 degrees yesterday), I was barefooting and splashing through puddles last night and today we got a decent amount of snow fall that will probably melt by the end of the weekend. Strange just very strange, I am thinking about pulling out the shorts again for my Sunday run.


Jan 6, 2012 Edit

NickW
Barefooting Bob

Barefooting Bob said:

Strange just very strange, I am thinking about pulling out the shorts again for my Sunday run.

I haven't had to put my shorts up yet.....


Jan 6, 2012 Edit

Barefoot TJ
This has been going on in the

This has been going on in the US too. So some of Canada as well then. The weather has been very strange. We finally had a couple nights in the teens (farenheit), then today it warmed up into the mid 60s again. Will we even have a "real" winter? Will this delay in winter cause spring to be delayed too? One of the people in the operating room with me today said they saw a cherry blossom tree blooming the other day. That's not good.

Jan 7, 2012 Edit

dutchie53
Bob, I am suprised you

Bob, I am suprised you haven't yet. I mean you'll do kilt in -20 but no shorts at +6. Just saying. I was out in my shorts and barefeet splashing through puddles on Thursday, it felt good, but my sanity seemed to be questioned by the people that I ran by. My feet are starting to get climatized to the gravel and grit on the roads, and it looks like we will be out in shorts again at the beginning of next week. Got to like that global warming here in winterpeg.

Jan 7, 2012 Edit

Barefooting Bob
dutchie53 wrote:Bob, I am

dutchie53 said:

Bob, I am suprised you haven't yet. I mean you'll do kilt in -20 but no shorts at +6. Just saying. I was out in my shorts and barefeet splashing through puddles on Thursday, it felt good, but my sanity seemed to be questioned by the people that I ran by. My feet are starting to get climatized to the gravel and grit on the roads, and it looks like we will be out in shorts again at the beginning of next week. Got to like that global warming here in winterpeg.

Shorts are coming out on Sunday, Thursday's run was in the evening and was about 9 miles and included a break after the City Park run before heading back out again to go meet the family. That was a 4 mile run, so I was concerned with sweat, wet then freeze when I went back out. Better to be safe than sorry. But no worries Dutchie I will be out in shorts on Sunday for my HHH run. On on.


Jan 7, 2012 Edit

dutchie53
City Park runners go out on

City Park runners go out on Thursday nights? You are right in keeping the sweat in check. I was out for only 4 miles on Thursday and took off the shoes for the last mile. With the roads being so wet it kind of limits me as to how far I can go barefoot. Have a good run tomorrow. I am just coasting and in maintenance mode, and keeping my milage in check right now untill end of February.

Jan 7, 2012 Edit

Barefooting Bob
City Park has a open run on

City Park has a open run on Thursday nights at 6:00 and Saturdays during the winter at 9:00 am and 8:00 am during the summer (usually about 10 to 20 runners or different levels) for the long run. They also do hill and speed training on Tuesdays as well in the summer. Great bunch of people and the owners (Erik and Cheryll) are fantastic. Trying to maintain some semblence of running until March myself.

Jan 7, 2012 Edit

lparker
I just signed up..should have

I just signed up..should have done it last fall..would have had more runs. Just to be clear - I just record runs made SOG, under 0/41, and over 1 km?

Lee

Jan 8, 2012 Edit

Barefoot YOW
Lee - thanks for joining up.

Lee - thanks for joining up. Yep those are the requirements, athought at the extremely low temperatures please record those runs of 1/2 km.

Jan 8, 2012 Edit

Barefoot YOW
Update for Jan 08 2012:Group

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Group Stats:

We now have 30 members and 1071 km (665.7 mi). The 174 runs are broken down by temperature range.

Individual stats:

Coldest run = BarefootingBob (-24°C or -11°F)

Most runs = Barefoot YOW (35)

Most Distance = Barefoot YOW (256.9 km or 160.6 mi)

Reminder: Please record your coldest run and coldest/longest run

Jan 8, 2012 Edit

pbarker
Nice statsNo run today but

Nice stats

No run today but was in shorts and harachies all day:) 6'c at 10:30 pm wow!

Jan 9, 2012 Edit

pbarker
Hard to record runs at +12'c,

Hard to record runs at +12'c, 54 f at noon. No shoes No shirt awesome!

Jan 9, 2012 Edit

dutchie53
As I went for my run

As I went for my run yesterday afternoon a neighbor cleaning slush of his driveway made the comment as I had just fineshed my run that it must be nice to run in barefeet in winter in winnipeg. LOL Gotta like global warming at times like this.

Jan 10, 2012 Edit

PatrickGSR94
Added my stats but not sure

Added my stats but not sure how to add my location on the Google map. Ran barefoot last Monday with a windchill of 32° or lower.

*edit* n/m got it on there.

Jan 10, 2012 Edit

Barefoot YOW
Update for week ending Jan 15

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Group Stats:

16 more runs for 93.4 km (57.9 mi)

Individual Stats:

Coldest run = Barefooting Bob (-24°C or -11°F)

Most runs = Barefoot YOW (38)

Most distance = Barefoot YOW (264.5 km or 164 mi)

Jan 15, 2012 Edit



pbarker
Looks like next week is a

Looks like next week is a rightoff for barefoot outside. May try an indoor track.

Jan 16, 2012 Edit

dutchie53
pbarker wrote:Looks like

pbarker said:

Looks like next week is a rightoff for barefoot outside. May try an indoor track.


With you on that one. Time to head for the PanAm pool do the indoor track and see how long it takes for someone to remind me to put on shoes.
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Jan 16, 2012 Edit

pbarker
Same here, track will be

Same here, track will be crowded. It will be interesting to see how long before I am stopped. Home made hurachies for backup

Jan 16, 2012 Edit

Barefooting Bob
Might have to try the Pan Am

Might have to try the Pan Am Pool track one of these days, must be better than the Grotto at the U of M (smell like a bunch of sweaty running shoes), bleech..... :sick:

Jan 16, 2012 Edit

pbarker
Ran two laps on the indoor

Ran two laps on the indoor track before i was stopped by an employee who politely explained with a smile that she knew what I was doing. I think she called it natural run, but I needed to cover my feet. Socks would be ok. That is an improvement as last time socks were not good enough. Saw two VFF and a marrell. Wow much better than last winter.
Barefoot Winter Challenge - 2011
Barefoot YOW
Jan 22 Update: Group

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Group Stats:

4 more runs this week (33km)

Individual Stats:

Smelph and Rickwhitelaw both got in 2 runs. Go USA!! Good to see Rick back in the game!!! Hey, that means no Canadians ran this week. In my part of the country freezing rain then cold (-20C) weather has created ice shards too pointy for bare feet. I did manage 30 km in socks

Jan 22, 2012 Edit

pbarker
Rough weather week. The only

Rough weather week. The only outside barefooting I did was shoveling the sidewalk. Did we set a new low temp

Jan 23, 2012 Edit

Barefooting Bob
Crazy temps at around -40

Crazy temps at around -40 degrees with the windchill. Was temped to go for a quick jaunt but my mukluks were frozen to my feet. Did manage to get about 24 miles in my mukluks (does it count that my feet were bare inside just the shearling and deer hide separating my skin from the road) though.

Jan 23, 2012 Edit

Smelph
USA! USA! USA!

USA! USA! USA!

:)

Jan 24, 2012 Edit

Barefoot YOW
Update: Jan 29 2012Group

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Update: Jan 29 2012

Group Stats: 7 runs for another 40 km

Jan 30, 2012 Edit

migangelo
i ran in frozen fog the other

i ran in frozen fog the other morning. 6 miles at 31F. i ran through a few ice spots and hit other spots of melted ice. my dog pulled me into grass a few times. once my feet started getting warm they would freeze again from the grass and all the water spots. my feet were quite sore. i didn't do anything the next day because my feet were itching so much.

Jan 30, 2012 Edit

Barefoot YOW
migangelo wrote:i ran in

migangelo said:

i ran in frozen fog the other morning. 6 miles at 31F. i ran through a few ice spots and hit other spots of melted ice. my dog pulled me into grass a few times. once my feet started getting warm they would freeze again from the grass and all the water spots. my feet were quite sore. i didn't do anything the next day because my feet were itching so much.

Wet and cold is real tough!!! Who was having more fun though, you or the dog?


Jan 30, 2012 Edit

migangelo
do you really need to ask?

do you really need to ask?

Jan 30, 2012 Edit

moominmamma
Yay, the snow has stopped

Yay, the snow has stopped dumping, the temperatures are creeping up to the freezing mark in the afternoons, and the highways are now mostly clear of snow/slush/ice. I've managed a couple of barefoot runs again after a hiatus of three weeks. 3k yesterday, 10k today. The gravel is still a killer, but I've found some more-travelled roads where the worst of it tends to be swept aside by passing vehicles.

Miranda

Feb 3, 2012 Edit

Barefooting Bob
Got one good barefoot

Got one good barefoot speedwork run in earlier this week, and hoping to get a good portion of my 22 km tomorrow in san shoe. Weather has been unbelievable this year.

Feb 3, 2012 Edit

Smelph
what a weird winter! We are

what a weird winter! We are having a hard time keep ing snow on the ground, which has been great for barefooting, but it's been so warm I've been losing "winter" runs due to the temps being too high!

190 miles seems attainable as long as conditions continue to be barefoot-favorable for hte next few weeks (we're supposed to be dry and 30s all week)

Feb 6, 2012 Edit

Barefoot YOW
Update: Feb 05, 2012


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Group Stats:

13 runs for 77 km (47.7 mi)

3 members with over 200 km (124 miles) barefoot running this winter

We are at 1300 km (810 miles) ---- Can we make it to over 1000 miles by the end of Februrary?

Individuals:

Smelph (Troy) got in 17km.

Feb 6, 2012 Edit

Barefoot YOW
Unknown entry on the

Unknown entry on the spreadsheet. Who is our ghost runner?

Line 37 of the 'Entry Data' sheet, someone added two runs for 27km. Please include your name and add the runs to the temperature range in which you ran them.



Thanks

Feb 6, 2012 Edit

Barfuß Chelsea
Talk about weird weather! In

Talk about weird weather! In Germany it's been below freezing for two weeks now. -14 in Frankfurt! What the...?!

I finally decided to brave the weather this morning and layered up well but :shock: !!! By the time I realized my feet were not even going to try to warm up I was already too far out and ended up running 1.4km instead of just 1, which is what seems to be about what most people in the group have tried out. (Barefoot YOW, how do you do it? :)) Three of my toes were definitely completely white and completely numb for those last 400m...

Feb 7, 2012 Edit

Smelph
Chelsea, in my experience 1km

Chelsea, in my experience 1km isn't even close to long enough for my feet to actually start warming themselves. Mine usually take about twice that distance.

Something you could try next time would be to run in place or on a treadmill for 5-10 minutes before heading out. Just something to get the blood pumping in a warm place so they don't have to try to start from scratch out in the cold.

Feb 7, 2012 Edit

Barefoot YOW
Bang on Smelph! And dry

Bang on Smelph! And dry pavement is glorious for winter running. I take about 3km to warm up. It becomes challenging to balance feet getting colder versus waiting for them to start pumping out the heat. That being said, I've had my touch of frostnip each winter I've run barefoot. Nothing too bad, but enough to lose about 1-2 mm of skin. When that happens I run on crusty snow. It is a giant pumice stone. Removes the dead skin like a charm.

I'm not a fan of warming up my feet before running outside. I find that they cool down much quicker. I prefer to head straight out barefoot and go as long as I can, knowing that my feet will warm up. If after 10-15 minutes there's no heat then on go the mimimalist shoes. (note: others have had great success using the warm up prior to heading outside)

For me, I can't get over how quickly I lose the padding on my feet in the winter. No matter how great your running form is, you still need to have the padding on your feet conditioned for barefoot running. My feet go through a cycle of summer/winter conditioning. I have been doing more gravel bucket running this winter, which makes running on chunky salt and road grit easier.

I hope that everyone makes it through this winter free from injury. It certainly builds character to run barefoot in the winter.

Feb 7, 2012 Edit

moominmamma
I used to wear shoes for 2

I used to wear shoes for 2 km, until I'd feel my feet pumping with some heat, and then shed the footwear. I don't always do that anymore, maybe because I've developed more faith in the inevitability of that foot-warming process, or because I don't feel the cold as much. But it does work very well, and it means that a beginner who might not be ready to run 3-4 km barefoot can still get a kilometre or so of comfortable warm-footed winter barefooting in.

Miranda

Feb 8, 2012 Edit

Barefoot YOW
moominmamma wrote:.... and

moominmamma said:

.... and it means that a beginner who might not be ready to run 3-4 km barefoot can still get a kilometre or so of comfortable warm-footed winter barefooting in.

Miranda


Good point Miranda!!!


Feb 8, 2012 Edit

Barefoot YOW
Update for week ending Feb 12

Update for week ending Feb 12 2012


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Feb 17, 2012 Edit

Horseman42
YOW, I didn't know you were doing this. I'll get my totals up by the end of the week. Unfortunately I wimped out on a lot of my longer runs and opted to do them barefoot indoor on the track.
Barefoot Winter Challenge - 2011
Barefoot YOW
Update: March 02 2012

Total = 1658.9km

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I love your signature, YOW.
 
Way to go to everyone on the list! Sadly I think my cold weather is pretty much done as we're going to be in the high 60s by tomorrow. While last year I learned a lot about running in the cold I still learned a couple things this season:

1. It's amazing what a difference simply having a layer between the sole of your foot and the ground can make. I did a lot of huaraches running this winter and I couldn't believe how much wArmer my feet were just with a sandal on compared to totally bare.

2. While I love the winter challenge and will no doubt do it again, there came a point this winter where I felt like I didn't have anything to prove and ran in my sandals on a day when I would otherwise have gone bare. I think this was a combination of just being tired of dealing with the rock salt, grit and "tar stones" the city uses to patch the roads once the plows scrape up the potholes and a desire just to make my runs a little more about comfort than about being the honey badger.

Congrats to everyone who even got out there once and I'm glad to see our insane band of cold weather weirdos growing!
 
Hi,

I have a lot of data from my barefoot runs with temperature and snow coverage. I was thinking of entering them on the spreadsheet but I do not know the wind chill factor for them. We do not normally use that in Denmark. Also I am not sure it makes that much difference (unless it is really windy) as most heat from the feet is lost to the ground (and snow). I hope most of you have clothes on your bodies to block the wind.
Should I enter it anyway? And when do the winter start and end?
 
I don't have wind-chill data where I live either, as I'm in a tiny community without "official" weather data, so I just use the temperature on the thermometer outside my house. No adjustment for wind-chill.

I think the challenge finishes at the end of March, at which point those of us in the Northern hemisphere will hopefully mostly be done with temperatures low enough to "count."

Miranda
 
Hi,

... Should I enter it anyway? And when do the winter start and end?

By all means, Please add your data. Any run +5°C and colder counts. If you can break down your runs per temperature range that would be fantastic. I can update the spreadsheet to ensure that your entries are included in the summary and stats. Winter is starting to break here. One warm week has done in most of our snow. We had a warmer than average winter.
 
Got over 6 miles (10 km) in tonight barefoot and in shorts, too bad it was 11 degrees. Felt darn good, does lots of gravel and grit count and there was still a little bit of snow to run through. Looking at 22 degrees for the weekend, holy crap what a weird winter....:barefoot:
 
YOW, looks like Matt was able to preserve your original Barefoot Winter Challenge thread in your chapter, so you can move the discussion back to that thread (just copy the recent entries here over to it; your choice how you would like to go), which would look better than having the one long post with a copy of all the comments in it.
 
YOW, looks like Matt was able to preserve your original Barefoot Winter Challenge thread in your chapter, so you can move the discussion back to that thread (just copy the recent entries here over to it; your choice how you would like to go), which would look better than having the one long post with a copy of all the comments in it.

TJ - If the thread is in the Canada Chapter, can it be accessed by all members? Will all members be able to add to the thread?

The thing is that the original thread was in the Canada Forum not Canada Chapter. Forums still going the way of the Dodo?
 
Good point. Yes, the forums are going away. So, it would be a good idea to keep it right where it is. ;) Too bad we can move threads to the chapters, but we can't move threads from the chapters to the forums, then you would have a much "cleaner" thread.

Barefoot fools! Loves it!
 
Yes, but we need all of you chapter presidents to start moving your threads from your forums to your chapters. I think Kitty sent some instructions to you all on how to do this. If not, please contact her. Once the state and country forums are empty, we will delete those forums.
 
This barefoot fool is trying to figure out how he can get some more cold runs in with weather in the 20's Celcius.
 
Yes, but we need all of you chapter presidents to start moving your threads from your forums to your chapters. I think Kitty sent some instructions to you all on how to do this. If not, please contact her. Once the state and country forums are empty, we will delete those forums.
Oohhhh.... Now I understand. See I thought I was supposed to check and make sure they were all in there and somehow missed the whole "moving" portion.... Consider me getting back on the ball. ;)
 

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