I actually found them both at Kroger last night, which illustrates the danger of letting my wife do all of the shopping. She doesn't look for stuff like this. It was only by chance that I was even in the store yesterday because she called me and told me we needed coffee. Normally I grouse when she asks me to do the shopping, but now I think I will be more accomodating. I don't want to volunteer, because then she'll know something's up. This has the potential for a win-win, she's happy because I am more cooperative, and I finally get to sample some beers that I have only seen or heard mentioned previously.
BTW, My home brewed DIPA runs about 9.7% where Ruination only runs 7.7%, but I still like it.