Dave, I actually bought some Elderberry wine today actually. Someday I'd love to try making my own. Still looking for bigger property for my future gardens/vineyards/orchards. I had to celebrate setting a PR today. After making PR's in every single distance a couple years ago, and then having a terrible year last year, its nice to finally break one again. Since the race was up in Ohio's Amish Country, I revisited a winery there that I had been too before and loved. I picked out a case but 1 I splurged on for my victory today. Breitenbach's 4-barrel Tawny Port. Its an amazing desert wine, I've never had another port that came close. Nice ceramic bottle and waxed top. Kind of pricey though!