Lucky you, there is nothing available for me to hide only bussiness that are not open that early in the morning and the route is on city streets
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Lucky you, there is nothing available for me to hide only bussiness that are not open that early in the morning and the route is on city streets
If I remember correctly from last summers walk/runs I was able to walk barefoot easily on the the local concrete bike trails after daytime temps had been near 100F. Now I was walking in the late evening just before sundown. These trails are out in the open too receiving the suns full rays all day long. I do remember the pavement still being warm on the feet but a nice warm. I have been wanting to see what types of temps my feet can handle as far as pavement temps this summer. This week temps have been in the 80's but sounds like Nebraska will be back in the oven next week. I agree with Dama on that the darker and the smoother the surface the less time the feet can tolerate it. That may be because the smoother surfaces allow more surface area to be in contact with your foot compared to rougher surfaces.
I would like to think that the darker the color the more heat it absorbs I think is the same principle as when wearing dark vs light colored clothes, the lighter the color the more heat it reflects. And that's my story and I am sticking to it
I think it is very difficult to judge the color and reflectivity of pavement. I've been fooled enough times that I don't trust the darker/hotter, lighter/cooler rule. I'm not arguing with the physics here, just that many times, my expectation colors my perception. I see an asphalt road and I think it must be dark, when in reality, it may be quite light in color. There is a type of bluish-colored concrete that doesn't seem all that dark, but it really is, and it gets blisteringly hot. I think knowledge of different types of pavement and close attention to how that pavement may have been exposed to sunlight throughout the day has been a better guide for me.
Since I've been running with bare feet I have found it humorous how many variations in asphalt I am aware of!
And you know what the funny part is? your feet know exactly how is going to feel
so you are mentally prepared for what's to come be it pleasure or discomfort
We're like Eskimos of the concrete tundra.
Another alternative is to find natural surface trails. They're nowhere near as hot, though they may present other challenges. It's a thought...
The natural surfaces around here are incredibly rocky, and not the kind of rock that is pleasant to run on, and lots of thorns. I also don't know of any trails near me, the closest probably being 45 minutes drive. Also, with the desert environment, the dirt tends to be "thick" and that is how I busted my foot open last summer, by not seeing a rock in that. It is possible that I haven't completely explored options for weekend excursions, but I do know that moving here from lots of hiking growing up in Oregon, I recognized a distinct difference. I'll have to ask my husband, since he has a habit of exploring many places. However, he doesn't run barefooted, so he's not going to remember it the same as I would. Maybe I'll get into trying it more as my feet get tougher. And there you have my rambling thoughts in response.
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I didn't know you were originally an Oregonian... Oh no!The natural surfaces around here are incredibly rocky, and not the kind of rock that is pleasant to run on, and lots of thorns. I also don't know of any trails near me, the closest probably being 45 minutes drive. Also, with the desert environment, the dirt tends to be "thick" and that is how I busted my foot open last summer, by not seeing a rock in that. It is possible that I haven't completely explored options for weekend excursions, but I do know that moving here from lots of hiking growing up in Oregon, I recognized a distinct difference. I'll have to ask my husband, since he has a habit of exploring many places. However, he doesn't run barefooted, so he's not going to remember it the same as I would. Maybe I'll get into trying it more as my feet get tougher. And there you have my rambling thoughts in response.
The natural surfaces around here are incredibly rocky....
A fair answer. Clearly you've considered going "natural" and from the sound of it, I don't blame your reticence a bit. Where you live now is definitely not Oregon.
I'll just wish you good luck then. Fwiw, one's tolerance for hot surfaces does increase pretty dramatically with practice, so long as you don't overdo and burn your skin back to square one.
I myself am living in a more temperate area, and further, don't mind getting out early now and then. I'm up before 0500 to go to work on week days anyway. I had a great 7.6 mile run around Valley Forge Park this morning with my running club folks starting at 0600. It was still 80F and 95% humidity, but fun.
All the discussion helps. It helps to balance my reticence with possibilities I had not or had not been able to consider previously. Thanks!
Tru Dat! We really become textural connoisseurs.
I hear you. I had some exciting runs (no pun intended), when I was getting my 20+ servings of veggies daily. I learned to avoid cabbage fairly quickly!The other reason my runs are not enjoyable early morning is because mother nature likes to call me at the most incovenient times.
We talked about this a bit last summer. I'm giving it another try. So far so good. Avoiding the afternoon heat is a consideration, but really, morning is the best time to run regardless. I don't know what I'll do when winter rolls around though. I may have to give up on the idea of running bare in the winter for the most part.
Up until recently I had to get up too early already! I'd be up around 4. Lack of sleep really stressed me out, no way I'd loose any more, and it would be counterproductive anyhow to trade recovery time for training time. Earlier this year I took on a new position where I only occasionally go in at six, usually seven, and I am sleeping a little better but still I don't think I'd get up even earlier if I didn't have too. This summer has been mild and rainy so far, so I've lucked out.
Even in the blistering summer sun there are plenty of tree lines trails around here. Some of them do have some open stretches though. Monday (even though it was pouring rain at daybreak) cleared up, bright and sunny, still very humid though and in the 80's. I was a bit worried since I was heading out at high noon, and the open stretches were too hot to walk but running I could get through em. There was one interesting spot where it look like they mended a section of road with the smooth black stuff... It actually compressed under foot like a sponge almost but luckily it wasn't sticky!
Even in the blistering summer sun there are plenty of tree lines trails around here. Some of them do have some open stretches though. Monday (even though it was pouring rain at daybreak) cleared up, bright and sunny, still very humid though and in the 80's. I was a bit worried since I was heading out at high noon, and the open stretches were too hot to walk but running I could get through em. There was one interesting spot where it look like they mended a section of road with the smooth black stuff... It actually compressed under foot like a sponge almost but luckily it wasn't sticky!
Did you end up leaving footprints in it? That might lead people to think it was bigfoot or something!
The stuff I'm referring to was much hotter than the surrounding pavement! But no, not quite soft enough to actually leave a print in. And I dont think my footprints would qualify as bigfoot at size 9!
Yesterdays long run was close to borderline temps for me, 88ºF air temp and mostly sunny. I missed my oppurtunity to run early, having arrived home after midnight from watching a movie. Eating a greasy double cheesburger, fries, and shake at 11:30 didnt lend to an early run either. Felt good to sleep in. So I waited until around 5pm, but unfortunately it was still at peak temp for the day. The slightly lower sun angle I think made more a difference, a couple hours earlier might have been too much. Slightly on the humid side too, but not as bad as the last 3+ weeks worth of rainy conditions we've had, but my main problem was overheating of the body, not the soles! And for once I ran out of water, so used to filling the bladder half way and still having half of that left (I probably dont drink as much as I should, but I just drink to thirst). Last 3 miles I had no water left and though it was after 7pm I was still sweating like crazy.
Yesterdays long run was close to borderline temps for me, 88ºF air temp and mostly sunny. I missed my oppurtunity to run early, having arrived home after midnight from watching a movie. Eating a greasy double cheesburger, fries, and shake at 11:30 didnt lend to an early run either. Felt good to sleep in. So I waited until around 5pm, but unfortunately it was still at peak temp for the day. The slightly lower sun angle I think made more a difference, a couple hours earlier might have been too much. Slightly on the humid side too, but not as bad as the last 3+ weeks worth of rainy conditions we've had, but my main problem was overheating of the body, not the soles! And for once I ran out of water, so used to filling the bladder half way and still having half of that left (I probably dont drink as much as I should, but I just drink to thirst). Last 3 miles I had no water left and though it was after 7pm I was still sweating like crazy.
Well I think around 130F or so is my limit. Went out Wednesday, was 91F in the evening, mostly sunny. Since I was just running from my house I took out my IR temp sensor quick and the main part of my road was 120F. My road is pretty old and faded, I walked over to some of the patches that were darker and they were 125F. Now I felt pretty comfortable on the road, at least standing for 20 seconds or so wasn’t a problem but I could feel the temperature on my feet rising so it might have been uncomfortable after a minute maybe, but once running I didn’t even notice it. However those patches I could tell were much hotter, to the point that if the whole road were like that it might be too hot. There were some long stretches where the whole side of the road was one big patch for 50-100 feet and it didn’t hurt but I could tell it probably would have after a little longer.
Went out Wednesday, was 91F in the evening, mostly sunny. Since I was just running from my house I took out my IR temp sensor quick and the main part of my road was 120F. My road is pretty old and faded, I walked over to some of the patches that were darker and they were 125F. Now I felt pretty comfortable on the road, at least standing for 20 seconds or so wasn’t a problem but I could feel the temperature on my feet rising so it might have been uncomfortable after a minute maybe, but once running I didn’t even notice it. However those patches I could tell were much hotter, to the point that if the whole road were like that it might be too hot. There were some long stretches where the whole side of the road was one big patch for 50-100 feet and it didn’t hurt but I could tell it probably would have after a little longer.Support Your Club
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