The barefoot runner qualification thread
- Thread starter Abide
- Start date
You guys are all the best. I
You guys are all the best. I just saw this thread and started to cringe when I realized Abide was referring to what I said. Honestly, I was kind of feeling badly for having said what I did. The last thing I want to do is make a bunch of people (whom I've never met!) mad at me!
Thanks to everyone for chiming in and showing me that most of you think the way I do. "Go as low as you can go and then put something on."
It's going to be an interesting winter!
You guys are all the best. I just saw this thread and started to cringe when I realized Abide was referring to what I said. Honestly, I was kind of feeling badly for having said what I did. The last thing I want to do is make a bunch of people (whom I've never met!) mad at me!
Thanks to everyone for chiming in and showing me that most of you think the way I do. "Go as low as you can go and then put something on."
It's going to be an interesting winter!
the cold feels fantastic on
the cold feels fantastic on my feet. I do not anticipate wearing shoes at all this winter...but that's me, I would never presume to tell someone else that they shouldn't adopt a FAT attitude towards winter-time wear....here in Central PA, it doesn't get much colder than 20 degrees F. that often
.
the cold feels fantastic on my feet. I do not anticipate wearing shoes at all this winter...but that's me, I would never presume to tell someone else that they shouldn't adopt a FAT attitude towards winter-time wear....here in Central PA, it doesn't get much colder than 20 degrees F. that often
.
Rick has proven it possible.
Rick has proven it possible. The question is are you tough enough?
...
....
....... I say this of course while living in Los Angeles
Rick has proven it possible. The question is are you tough enough?
...
....
....... I say this of course while living in Los Angeles
Anyone want to fly Burt out
Anyone want to fly Burt out to the midwest during a snow storm? Anyone?
Anyone want to fly Burt out to the midwest during a snow storm? Anyone?
I thought you were mad at me
I thought you were mad at me because the link goes to one of my posting.
Today I went for a run with a BFR. He started off barefoot and I had on a pair of thin black dress socks. Temp was ~32, dry, no sun. After 2 k my friend was numb and stopped to put socks on, but my feet were warm. With the thin socks I did not loose much ground feel and was completely comfortable. I am going to try to cut the sole off a sock, leaving some loops to keep it on my foot and see if it is the material under the foot or the material on top of the foot that makes the difference.
I thought you were mad at me because the link goes to one of my posting.
Today I went for a run with a BFR. He started off barefoot and I had on a pair of thin black dress socks. Temp was ~32, dry, no sun. After 2 k my friend was numb and stopped to put socks on, but my feet were warm. With the thin socks I did not loose much ground feel and was completely comfortable. I am going to try to cut the sole off a sock, leaving some loops to keep it on my foot and see if it is the material under the foot or the material on top of the foot that makes the difference.
NakedSoleNate wrote:the cold
What will you do when snow requires you to spend time walking and standing around, outside in central PA? Do you plan to spend the whole winter indoors, except when you go out for a run?NakedSoleNate said:the cold feels fantastic on my feet. I do not anticipate wearing shoes at all this winter...but that's me, I would never presume to tell someone else that they shouldn't adopt a FAT attitude towards winter-time wear....here in Central PA, it doesn't get much colder than 20 degrees F. that often
I don't really stand around
I don't really stand around outside....but from my studio, I walk every day around town (besides running)....the only standing is at stop lights...if I stay moving, I am fine....other than running, I walk a few blocks to lunch, or to the bank...or from the parking lot to my car. I've never worn gloves, and my hands have been fine. In all my winters here, I've gone to the wood pile and moved wood from there to my house in bare feet...usually in boxershorts and a hoodie too ...(we live out in the boonies, heat with a wood stove). So, if I'm outside, I am active....I do however, wear a nice warm beanie on my head!
Headed out now for five miles or so, not sure how cold it is, when I came in this morning form my early yoga class it was 30 degrees...it might be a tad warmer now, not sure :-D
Namaste, and good morning everyone!
I don't really stand around outside....but from my studio, I walk every day around town (besides running)....the only standing is at stop lights...if I stay moving, I am fine
....other than running, I walk a few blocks to lunch, or to the bank...or from the parking lot to my car. I've never worn gloves, and my hands have been fine. In all my winters here, I've gone to the wood pile and moved wood from there to my house in bare feet...usually in boxershorts and a hoodie too ...(we live out in the boonies, heat with a wood stove). So, if I'm outside, I am active....I do however, wear a nice warm beanie on my head!Headed out now for five miles or so, not sure how cold it is, when I came in this morning form my early yoga class it was 30 degrees...it might be a tad warmer now, not sure :-D
Namaste, and good morning everyone!
I agree with you, Matt. When
I agree with you, Matt. When it hurts because my feet are cold, there's just no fun anymore in running.
I agree with you, Matt. When it hurts because my feet are cold, there's just no fun anymore in running.
NakedSoleNate wrote: I don't
What happens when snow needs to be cleared, you're going to do that BF?NakedSoleNate said:I don't really stand around outside....but from my studio, I walk every day around town (besides running)....the only standing is at stop lights...if I stay moving, I am fine
Headed out now for five miles or so, not sure how cold it is, when I came in this morning form my early yoga class it was 30 degrees...it might be a tad warmer now, not sure :-D
It's a lot worse if you can't feel the pain, and THAT is why it's stupid to push the cold limits.fetish4running said:
I agree. It's not smart to
I agree. It's not smart to push the cold limits, and if you aren't for it from the get-go, you really shouldn't try it. You have to have the will to want to do this. With that said, it would be wise for people wanting to "push it" to do so in small amounts, small distances, preferrably over dry terrain to start with.
I agree. It's not smart to push the cold limits, and if you aren't for it from the get-go, you really shouldn't try it. You have to have the will to want to do this. With that said, it would be wise for people wanting to "push it" to do so in small amounts, small distances, preferrably over dry terrain to start with.
I think stupid is a harsh
I think stupid is a harsh word.
Last winter I pushed to see what my limits are for cold weather barefoot running. This doesn't mean that I ran until my toes fell off, I ran to my comfort level. I found what my limits were last year and I intend to push those limits this year simply because I know I am a stronger runner now then I was then.
I have found that I am really uncomfortable in any shoes so if I don't push to see my real limits I'd probably not get any miles in this winter.
If this makes me stupid I'm ok with that.
I think stupid is a harsh word.
Last winter I pushed to see what my limits are for cold weather barefoot running. This doesn't mean that I ran until my toes fell off, I ran to my comfort level. I found what my limits were last year and I intend to push those limits this year simply because I know I am a stronger runner now then I was then.
I have found that I am really uncomfortable in any shoes so if I don't push to see my real limits I'd probably not get any miles in this winter.
If this makes me stupid I'm ok with that.
Your approach doesn't sound
Your approach doesn't sound stupid to me at all, Ram. You approached it with an open-mind and a wanting to make it happen. That's the first step in a successful venture. Then you learned what you were capable of. That's a smart combination, if you ask me. (Basically what I said up top. ;-) )
Don't forget, I ran down to 27 degrees dry for half a mile, then decided to put my socks on and go home, since only one of my toes felt like it might fall off. If it hadn't I would have probably completed 2 miles that night.
Your approach doesn't sound stupid to me at all, Ram. You approached it with an open-mind and a wanting to make it happen. That's the first step in a successful venture. Then you learned what you were capable of. That's a smart combination, if you ask me. (Basically what I said up top. ;-) )
Don't forget, I ran down to 27 degrees dry for half a mile, then decided to put my socks on and go home, since only one of my toes felt like it might fall off. If it hadn't I would have probably completed 2 miles that night.
Thanks TJ, I just want to be
Thanks TJ, I just want to be sure that everyone understands that pushing your limits IS NOT stupid. If done correctly it will help keep you out of shoes for more of the winter and while those who are scare to be stupid are re conditioning their feet in the spring the stupid ones are running marathons (hopefully).
Thanks TJ, I just want to be sure that everyone understands that pushing your limits IS NOT stupid. If done correctly it will help keep you out of shoes for more of the winter and while those who are scare to be stupid are re conditioning their feet in the spring the stupid ones are running marathons (hopefully).
One thing I've found is that
One thing I've found is that my feet generally start out kind of cold, and it's only after a mile or two that they really warm up sometimes. The only exception to this has been when the conditions have been cold and wet. That combination (30's and wet) doesn't work well for me.
What Ram says about pushing limits really rings true for me.
I wish that the weather would be a little more cooperative, though. For example, it might be 33 and dry for one run, then down in the teens for my next run. That's just too big a jump to go from 33 down to the teens. It's rare when I can get temps and conditions that match what I'm actually ready for in terms of my adaptation.
One thing I've found is that my feet generally start out kind of cold, and it's only after a mile or two that they really warm up sometimes. The only exception to this has been when the conditions have been cold and wet. That combination (30's and wet) doesn't work well for me.
What Ram says about pushing limits really rings true for me.
I wish that the weather would be a little more cooperative, though. For example, it might be 33 and dry for one run, then down in the teens for my next run. That's just too big a jump to go from 33 down to the teens. It's rare when I can get temps and conditions that match what I'm actually ready for in terms of my adaptation.
