Fellowship of the Morton's Toe

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  1. Norm Deplume

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    I'm here, part of the crowd!

    I'm here, part of the crowd! (If 1:10 is a true ratio of the regular population with Morton's Toe, I wonder why we seem to have such a high number here? Are proportionally more of us barefooting, or are we just talking more because of our issues?)



    I have been running on roads again the last couple of weeks, and my 2nd metatarsal on my right foot is very unhappy (left foot is only a little painy). Back to the trails I go just as soon as my feet feel better.



    Stupid short first Metatarsal. :angry:
     
  2. Barefoot TJ

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    Good Morning, Mrs. Deplume. 

    Good Morning, Mrs. Deplume. It's very possible that we congregate here because we "can't" wear shoes. Although I have MT, it doesn't cause me any problems. My problems come from MN (Morton's brother). B@$t@rd$!
     
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    I have read that it's

    I have read that it's somewhere like 25% - 30%.
     
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  4. chadisbarefoot

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    Norm Deplume wrote:I'm here,



    I have actually read in more than one place that the ratio is closer to 1 in 3 have Morton's toe. One of those sources was a Vibram interview or press release that was discussing the versatility of the VFFs for all feet.

    In any case, I have a significantly longer "2nd" toe, and I suffer from pretty much every issue described in the OP. It is incredibly frustrating to still be getting blisters after doing this for well over a year. GRRRRR!
     
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    Maybe that 10% is only where

    Maybe that 10% is only where Nyal lives. Hee.
     
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    Yup. Norway's a strange

    Yup. Norway's a strange country. ;)
     
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    Awesome, count me and my

    Awesome, count me and my Morton's Toes in!
     
  8. Nyal

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    O M G !  This has got to be

    O M G ! This has got to be the worse MT I have ever seen!

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    Welcome, Chic, to the MT Club

    Welcome, Chic, to the MT Club and the BRS!
     
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    I only think I have this

    I only think I have this condition and consider it to be "ever-so-slight". My second toe is not longer than my first and I have the characteristic callous under the second metatarsal head. It really doesn't stop me from running barefoot, but seems to make me sensitive to walking barefoot on really flat surfaces... like wood floors and tile (at Wal-Mart). If I ever find myself at a podiatry office, I will ask them to diagnose whether I actually have it or not. (will probably never know)

    I don't know how common this is, but I suspect it is more common than we think.

    Anyhow... I haven't been running much lately because I had been over-doing it during August... then I ran a 1/2 on Sept. 5th. I don't think I have put in more than 30-40 miles since then. My body needs a break.

    Sorry to ramble. :)
     
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    No problem, Low.  Ramble on. 

    No problem, Low. Ramble on. You can diagnose your own MT by crossing one leg over the other (like crossing your legs in a chair at the knees) then with the leg that's on top, bend your toes down, so you can see the white of the knucles, note where your knuckles are. If the first knuckle (start of the metatarsal bone) on the second toe reaches further out than the first toe's (big toe) first knucle, then you have MT; if not, then you don't have MT. Help me out here, Nyal. My explanation sucks. Argh.
     
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    I have Morton's Toe!!! I'm so

    I have Morton's Toe!!! I'm so happy :)



    This is great news - for the last 8 months I've thought I just had pathetic, wimpey, overly sensitive feet...now I know I have an medical excuse, YAY! :)
     
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    Teej: Your explanation is

    Teej: Your explanation is perfect. I would only add that if the 1st metty isn't proportionally long according to the pattern set by the other 4 then you may also have MT. Thus it is possible to have MT and not have a shorter 1st metty.

    Everyone: Be sure to say if you wish to be included in the official list of the Fellowship and also what you may want your title to be. Otherwise, I will make one up for you. Yes, we all get Viking titles in the fellowship. Take THAT norms.
     
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    Can you use your Paint

    Can you use your Paint program or something else and draw that picture, Nyal? I'm not getting it. I think my brain burned out long ago.

    Dodgy, welcome the the club, you poor thing!
     
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    Well, I guess I am Lownox the

    Well, I guess I am Lownox the Whiner.

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    I like the part about Greek

    I like the part about Greek statues in the Wikipedia article (and the Statue of Liberty!). I also looked up Metatarsus in Wikipedia and it looks like the diagram they give there has MT as well!

    Okay I did the test. I think I have a very slight Morton's Toe. I don't really have any of the symptoms, though.

    About asphalt: I don't mind running on asphalt at all, and there's less pain doing it barefoot than in anything else at all, including huaraches, water shoes, and VFFs. Nothing hurts more than standing around on concrete in shoes. Barefoot on concrete is really not a problem.

    On the other hand, I have several areas of pain that flare up when I do long runs, which are always on hard flat sufaces (I'm a slacker, and often don't run much in between the long runs).

    Pain on the inside of the right ankle.

    Pain in the right knee.

    And a new one, just since I did some long runs down the shore over a month ago: A bruise-like pain along the bottom of the 5th metatarsal on my left foot.

    So, maybe it's just because I never train and then pull crazy stunts like 8 miles barefoot on alternating gravel, sidewalk, and chip-n-seal, but could these be related to a mild case of Morton's Toe?
     

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    I looked again. I don't have

    I looked again. I don't have to do no leg-crossin', toe bendin' fancy measurin'. I just sat down with my feet straight out in front of me and noticed that my second toes are longer. How did I miss that?

    Yes, I do have the "pied de Néanderthal."
     

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    Nyal wrote:Teej: Your





    I love viking titles since my relatives are from Northrn Sweden, I want Eric the Red! lol. It has been said from a member of my family that has been researching the family tree for decades that we are actually part of that blood line. But, I am no historian so I can't say for sure. I like the name though! lol.
     
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    dodgy wrote:I have Morton's





    I second that as a ten month newbie myself lol!
     
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