You're welcome, you just seemed a bit down on yourself a few posts back. I know one thing that worked for me when loosing weight was fresh squeezed lemon juice and water as soon as i'd wake up. It kick starts the metabolism like nothing else I know, along with cutting calories of course. I was surprised by the result I got from such a small change. I think apple cider vinegar does the same thing if it's the organic, cloudy stuff, but apples make me fart so I skipped that one. What genre of music do you play Lee? I know you're a bass player. I'm kind of a jack of all trades, rubbish at all of them. I did develop a software synth that made it into a music magazine once. Probably my only musical claim to fame.