Hornet's nest: Swatted.

   Makes sense I suppose. I

Makes sense I suppose. I don't think I'm a purist but I admit fully that "barefoot shoes" does get under my skin a bit but you do make a good point, if that's the standard why not just go with it. But I'm still going hate when people say they ran a "barefoot race" in their "barefoot shoes," I gotta have something!

Time to start putting the new acronym to work. SOG (skin on ground)



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  I guess this would also

I guess this would also apply to "barefoot forums"?
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Ram, it does sting to hear

Ram, it does sting to hear people say "Hey, I ran an ultra barefoot, too! Those TrekSports were great!" I'll put up with that annoynace if it serves a greater good.

I'm not commenting on the barefoot forum issue. That's a dead horse even I don't want to beat.
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Jason, I can agree with you

Jason, I can agree with you when your trying to give in for positive reasons, arguing minor differences in terminology with folks who you may be potentially trying to help isnt helping at all. As long as we are still saying barefoot shoes, that does use the term SHOES at least. When those folks say like you already quoted "Hey, I ran an ultra barefoot, too! Those TrekSports were great!" then that does grind the gears a bit. But as long as they say they ran in barefoot shoes, then so be it. The few times I say minimalist shoes people generally dont know what I am talking about.
 
I was at the Y playing basket

I was at the Y playing basket ball in my VFF's. A guy asked me about them.
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At the end of my speech I told him that I run barefoot for as long as the weather will let me. He says "Oh I thought you were doing that now." And we wonder why other countries make fun of our schools.
 
As long as the term holds the

As long as the term holds the word SHOE, I can deal with that, but I will continue to use the term minshoes when I talk about minimalist running shoes. That's what they are. The industry and its followers can and will call them whatever they want, and I have come to grips with that because I realize that these minshoe companies are making healthy footwear choices, and I realize that because of the term they use, more people are finding their way to healthy running. As long as these minshoe companies continue to make healthy footwear, we (the BRS) will support them.



What I take issue with, and this is where the term "Barefoot Running Shoes" becomes dangerous, is when runners get injured running in their "Barefoot Running Shoes," go to their doctors, and tell them they were injured while running barefoot because they are utterly brainwashed in believing they were running barefoot; after all the shoes say they're barefoot. The injury stats are adding up, and unjustly, it's not in barefoot running's favor. To an extent, the term is crippling barefoot running.



Here's what I've had to say about the term "natural" running:

I think natural running and proper running are two different things.

There's honestly nothing natural about shoes of any kind. That's like saying my shirt is natural or my hat is natural. No, they are artificial; they are fabricated. Bare feet are natural.

Some people can achieve a proper (remember the words safe and healthy when reading the word proper here) running form in shoes, whether they be minimal or traditional, and/or without shoes. Likewise, some people can run barefoot and never achieve a proper form. The barefoot person may be running naturally, but if they don't have a proper form, they aren't running properly.

The average Joe's best chances at achieving this proper form is first by barefoot, then by minimal, and good luck with traditional, although it can be done (just not by the majority of us).

Overall, the best way for the majority of us to achieve a "natural and proper running form" is by running barefoot.
 
Put me in the same camp as

Put me in the same camp as getting really annoyed when someone says they run barefoot, but run in Vibrams or some other minimal shoe. Interesting, because I do find that barefoot runners use the word "minimal" than non-barefoot runners. The people who have no experience with barefoot running, or are just getting into it, use the word "barefoot shoes".

3 years ago being a wet behind the ears, wanna-be hardcore purist barefoot runner, I would of been totally against the term "barefoot shoes" but now I say go for it!



Off topic: I was at the dreaded shopping mall the other day wearing Vibrams, some lady said to me "must feel great to walk around barefoot all the time". I said I wish I was barefoot! She left with a very confused looking face.
 
Ugh.I make it clear to all

Ugh.

I make it clear to all that I (mostly) run in shoes; and often (wx permitting) run barefoot.

Now, injured (again) and poised to start my comeback, I'm hearing a lot of "good shoe" and "proper shoe" wishes from my non-running friends/family.

And, FWIW, I'm now even more convinced that my most minimal shoes have "caused" me more problems than not... so, my comeback will be largely barefoot, even though it's the dead of a winter (in Michigan).

(Yeah, yeah... I know, I am the cause of my woes. Still... I think the reduced feedback in minshoes [esp very minimal shoes like VFF and Soft Star - no cushion, no support] leads to a very insidious loss, blocking just enough to make things dangerous without providing enough support/shelter to compensate.)
 
I was sure this would be a

I was sure this would be a post by Chaser literally talking about swatting a hornet's nest and then treating the wound with some sort of anal lubricant.
 
Jason, why not just call them

Jason, why not just call them "Barefooty Shoes?"
 

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