My first 10k race coming up and questions

megabarefoot

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So, I'm gonna do my first 10k race, ever, barefoot on turkey day. My focus has been on short speed runs no more than 4-5k and one longer run (working up to a 15k) per week. I've broken a few barriers as far as speed and distance are concerned and can now understand how and why some folks choose to race or run distance barefoot. Training has been mostly fine up to this point but there are still some things I'm trying to smooth out that just won't go away.



1.) Right leg only and very unprediticably, my calf and thigh get sore, I presume from getting tight during the run. I dunno what I'm doing to cause it, everything, feels fine. It's not every run, I'd say there is a 50% chance if it happening to the degree I need to stop and gently stretch it every couple of klicks or so. I feels like that mild burning sensation one would get when one works the muscle too much. It's odd.



2.) Longer distances (around 10k), especially over rougher terrain, result in a rough spot that will tingle for a bit directly under the 2nd metahead of both feet. I've been BFR for about 6 months now so I presume this will eventually ease up the more distance I gain; but I dunno. Perhaps it's just the way I'm moving. Am I pushing too much rather than placing the foot? It's not too bad, but I've heard stories of folks running half marathons or more across various terrain (mostly concrete or road, some trails) and I wonder what they feel like afterwards. Do the feel tingle? Are there some spots that just seem to get sore regardless of how well you try to keep relaxed and in form?



3.) weeee! I can finally run about 6k on trails and even hike some rocky terrain barefoot. Perhaps with proper cross training and relaxtion, the issues I'm experiencing will eventually dissipate. I'm mainly concerned about the muscles I mentioned above; I can't perceive why they seem to "burn out" during the run when I don't feel a damn thing on the left leg.



As a side note: I've noticed that (very slowly) my feet are growing more tolerant of things like trail running and running on gravel. There is a limit, usualy around 5k where they start to get more sensitive. Will this eventually increase over time or should I focus more on the rougher terrain to help the process?
 
I read in Ken Bob's book that

I read in Ken Bob's book that the way he got over the pads wearing down-sensitivity issue (and namely, blisters on his toes) was by pointing his toes up upon landing. Doing this prepares the skin for landing by spreading it apart, which lessens abrasion from shearing. I guess lifting the toes more is something trail runners, shoddies too, should consider anyway.

Good luck and have fun with your 10K!
 
For me, I've been having an

For me, I've been having an issue with my right leg as well getting fatigued faster as well as cramping up during runs. I found the other day, while I wasn't thinking about my form I didn't have any issues. Once I started thinking about form the pain came back. I also only run on sidewalks for the most part and they are not level, typically tilting to one side so one of the legs has to work harder while the other is just along for the ride.

I'm slightly obssessive about things, so when I think too much I get in the way of myself and make things much more difficult than it has to be. Maybe this is part of your problem too? I'm doing my first 5 k barefoot this Saturday, so I am trying to work out my issues as well.

I think Mike was having some issues too with one of his legs, so maybe he can weigh in on this too. Good luck and hopefully this helps a little.
 
Right leg thing was bugging

Right leg thing was bugging me too. That calf would get tired first and the right arch has drawn up and foot gotten more muscular, but the left is still pretty flat and foot muscles weaker looking. I found out, from my Chiro, that my left hip was high. Once I knew where I was and why, I figured out, I was just rolling through with my left leg and my right leg was keeping pace...imagine running in one shoe. As soon as I started focusing on keeping it even, it got better and not so much one sided. Things are slowly but surely levelling out. My left calf has been registering work more and my left foot arch will actually burn at times...

Ken Bob's 1-2-3 landing was a huge help in preserving skin for me! I can run 9+ miles and the skin will be fine. In fact, I've run 8.5 the day after a peddicure (dumb!), but the skin was no worse for wear...just the muscles in my feet get sore and tired and there are a lot of rain grooved roads where I run. The weird thing is, since I've added bucket training to me weekly routine, normal concrete roads feel almost soft and when I land on acorns and things, they surprise me, but don't really "hurt".

It's a process...sounds like you're doing great!

-Jonny
 
ah, well at least I'm not the

ah, well at least I'm not the only one! was that 123 method mentioned in Ken Bob's book?

bucket training? you're carryin around buckets of water?

my left leg is very slightly different than my right and I think my right is having to compensate for it. the left does usually feel like it's landing differently. sounds like you and I have similar issues.

the trick is trying to consistently replicate the conditions that make for a good run wit less fatigue on the right leg.

in any case, I'm finally over the big humps in the process and can enjoy myself thanks to all the advise from those that came before me!
 
I have the same issue Mega.

I have the same issue Mega. I've only been running BF for about 2 months now, truly only gotten serious about it in the last month though. I've actually had my right calf get so tight that my foot starts to go numb. After a bit of research, I discovered that there is a large nerve that runs right next to your achilles. I've tried everything to alleviate the pain/numbness and so far the only thing that has worked is forgetting about it.

I think I'm suffering from TMIS (too much info syndrome). I'm so worried about my form that I'm running 'weird'. Last night, I just went out and ran. Didn't worry about my cadence or form and it's one of the best runs I've ever had. Still some tightness in my calf but my foot never went numb. Anyways, best advice I can give is to forget everything you've read and just run. :) Things will work themselves out.
 
megabarefoot wrote:ah, well

megabarefoot said:
ah, well at least I'm not the only one! was that 123 method mentioned in Ken Bob's book? bucket training? you're carryin around buckets of water? my left leg is very slightly different than my right and I think my right is having to compensate for it. the left does usually feel like it's landing differently. sounds like you and I have similar issues. the trick is trying to consistently replicate the conditions that make for a good run wit less fatigue on the right leg. in any case, I'm finally over the big humps in the process and can enjoy myself thanks to all the advise from those that came before me!

Yes, Grasshopper...until you can carry bucket to top of temple, you are not true barefoot! LOL! You get a bucket big enough to stand in...think wrapping paper plastic bucket from Wal-Mart or the like, only not as long...then, also at Wal-Mart, hit up the garden section for some small rocks. Fill the bucket with the rocks about 4-5in deep, park the bucket in front of the TV, flip on your show, get in the bucket and start tuh marchin! I've come to depend on mine when I don't have time to run, but the bottom of the foot itch is driving me nuts and also to toughen up the skin.

The 1-2-3 landing is in Ken Bob's book, yes. In short, ball of the foot is 1 and toes and heel are 2 & 3, though not important which touches down 2nd and which is 3rd. Ideally, it should look like a flat footed landing to the onlooker. I believe chapter 4 is the section on form, landing, etc. Just keep in mind that this is Ken Bob's form and yours may differ a little, so make it your own and focus more on having fun and listening to what your body is telling you than what it should look like. Relaxed and smooth is fun!

I am right leg dominant, so it's stronger than my left and tends to take over when I get tired. The left knee surgery didn't help any, but the fact that you know where your issues are coming from mean you can focus on correcting them and even it out.

Sounds like you have a handle on things! Keep us posted!

-Jonny
 
hmm, ok. is my advice really

hmm, ok. is my advice really wanted or needed? i don't know but here it is. don't worry about racing until you can run pain free. there will always be races. if you can't get a refund then try and transfer it. if you can't do that either then walking is an option. or even just using it as a regular training run.



i had some issues last week and i am always working on form. i got a massage the other day to help with my problem. i fell on my hip a few years back and have some muscle imbalances i'm working out. when running gets painful for me, i stop. not worth getting hurt.



Mike
 
Advise from other barefoot

Advise from other barefoot runners is always welcomed!



I'm capable of doing the 10K (under 60mins) and it's a cheap, local race so I'll do it. Even if it's cold. I can handle the cold much better this year. It'd be nice if I can eventually get to a point where I don't feel the need to stop and stretch something on my right leg. If it isn't the calf that tightens, it's the thigh muslce, never both simualtaneously.



At least I can say why my right calf is tightening whereas the left never comes close. I'm unclear on what causes the thigh to tighten. I'm sure in time things will work out; I've not even been doing this a full year.



One thing concerns me about cold weather jogging: The ground feel is very different, so much so that I have to be careful not to step too hard the faster I want to go. The cold pretty much overrides all other sensations; sigh I suppose I'll have to switch to my VFFs or sandals for my morning runs.



Eventually, I want my one long run for the week to be about a 15-20k just to be certain I can do it. At that point, I may try for a summer or early fall 20K race. Relaxation and foot placement are the two things I need to refine if I'm to get any faster. I don't need to go too much faster, just a wee bit for now.



I said to myself just yesterday: Man, it's nice to be able to go just about any where barefoot and not feel like my feet can't handle it or walk as if I'm walking on glass. Know what I mean? Sure ya do ;-)
 
You might look into

You might look into Myofascial release http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myofascial_release.
I'm not sure if it is the same thing, but I was having trouble with my right calf getting REALLY tight when I would run - it was annoying because everything else felt fine. I started "self administering" myofascial release to my calf and my problem disappeared. It's basically the same principal behind a foam roller or "The Stick", but much more specific. There is an app for the iPhone called "Muscle Trigger Points" that shows how to address certain muscles, but for the calves it is mainly at the muscle insertion points behind the knee and wherever there is sensitivity to point pressure.

If you decide to try it, I would be interested to know your results. I would also be interested in the "Docs" opinions.
 
I have several books on the

I have several books on the subject as well as some release tools and a rumble roller. the rumble roller is awesome, check it out.

I use it on the tight spots and in general, it's nice.
 

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