20 miles in, here be dragons

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Hi people

I'm getting close to the 20 mile mark in my practice runs, i know that sooner or later i'm going to hit the wall and have to face my dragons.

Any tips on slaying these beasties and breaking through in one piece?

Is it mental strengh, good nutrition, training or what that gets you through?

This is new territory for me, and in a way is why i started running in the first place, i just want this kind of challenge in my life at the moment.

In the last year i've stopped smoking, lost 50 pounds in weight, and taught myself to run, and here i am facing mile 20 not knowing what to expect, but loving every minute of it.

Peace

Steve
 
Nice work Steve! 20 miles is

Nice work Steve! 20 miles is a huge mile marker BUT it shouldn't be feared. If you have been fine up untill now with your nutrition, hydration, and recovery you should have nothing to be afraid of. When I started running distances over 12 miles I was worried myself when I would start hitting that "wall" and at the risk of sounding cocky, I've NEVER hit that wall. I did read the advice of many, took my time figureing out what worked for me, made adjustments and never pushed anything too far off plan.

Mentaly, I just kept saying to myself that I've prepared correctly, and with my trial and error i've found the right combo of hydration and nutrition (dinner's night before, breakfest day of, GU's, water, gatorade, and chia - my personal coctail) and I'll do fine. I think if you are there already, you won't have to deal with these demons.

Furthermore, every mile you run and listen to your body and what it needs and doesn't need is another mile you'll know how to prepare for the next. For example, I know almost to the Oz how much wather/Gatoraid I need when it's warm and now when it's 50 and I'm sweating a lot less. Comes with the territory after many miles.

Congrats on the weight loss and milage. Good luck and let us know how it goes! Are you planning for a race soon, marathon or longer?
 
Thanks for the advice Bruno

Thanks for the advice Bruno 8)

I'm not planning on any races this year, my goal was just to break the 20 mile barrier.

When i started running i had ultras on my mind, so next year i'll start training for a 50mile and see how i get on. Winter is nearly upon us here in the U.K. so i'm going to use that time to rest up a bit, work on my core strength and enjoy some family time.

I don't think a marathon would suit me, too many people and too much competition involved. The idea that appeals would be to complete large distances where just finishing is the goal, not the times, as long as i stay within the cut-off's i'll be happy.
 
Skeedaddie,20 isn't the big

Skeedaddie,

20 isn't the big deal for hurting and injuries and all the rest if you're not tying it to a race. If you are enjoying your runs at 15, 14, 12, etc, you'll enjoy 21. Just do like Bruno says and listen to your bod and have FUN!
 
Honestly I thought 17 was a

Honestly I thought 17 was a much harder distance to conquer than 20. Once I hit 17 a few times 18-22 were pretty quick to make it through. I really have no understanding how how 17 can be soooo much futher than 16 even though 22 is barely more than 18. The math just makes no sense :-D
 
Thanks peopleI know i was

Thanks people

I know i was close to hitting the wall on my last run, i felt the coordination going from my legs, i couldn't think clearly, i had my ipod playing but was totally unaware of it.

To date i haven't been fueling my runs with goo's and stuff, i've just taken water and coconut water, which i start to drink after the 10 mile mark.

My pace is anything between 12 minute to 8 minute miles depending on the hills, wind etc.
 
Dragons be optional.I've

Dragons be optional.

I've read that "most people" can store roughly 2000+ calories of glycogen.

"Most people" also tend to burn around 200 calories per mile.

If one is like "most people" and one also happens to run at such a pace that one is burning purely/primarily glycogen, then one "might" hit a wall at 20 miles (or, 2000 calories).

In reality, most people are not running that fast. Most are also burning fat.

And, if one fuels with carbs along the way, one is not likely to run out of glycogen.

Hence, no wall.

Venture forth and see what happens.

If you've been approaching this milestone prudently, I predict it will pass with little fanfare. (Although, I will cheer for you.)
 
Ya, Skee, there's no benefit

Ya, Skee, there's no benefit to tyou to push too hard. Easy and calmly does it. On a practice run at a fat burning pace, you should cruise through and feel no particular degradation of mentation or performance. Goos give me the intestinal willies.

You will reach a point where 20's no big deal. You'll see.
 
Thanks for your help ye

Thanks for your help ye trusty Knights of barefoot

The Balrog has now shrunk in size to something more like Puff the magic dragon.
 

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