Questions from a new barefoot runner :)

flangenimblick

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Hi, so as this thread shows, I'm a new runner and am wanting to ask a few questions :)







1) Stretching, how important is it?



I can't help but think of the quote from Zombieland:



"Stretching. I don't believe in it. You ever seen a lion limber up before taking down a gazelle?" And it got me thinking, what other animal stretches before they do something?



Living in a semi-rural town in South Africa as well, I've never seen any of the Khoisan hunters I've been around limber up before setting out. Although, this is possibly also because they have a far more active lifestyle where they naturally stretch more without having to actually take time to do it, whereas mine is a lot more sedentary.



I'm not flexible at all, but pilates has helped with that, as well as running. Recently, though, I haven't been doing pilates, but still running and I find that doing some minor stretches while I run helps, but I don't feel the need to stretch before a run, maybe just a little warm up and a short stretch after a run.



So, I wonder, if one simply runs more and leads a more active lifestyle, will the need to stretch so often before doing something, become unnecessary? And does barefoot running stretch the legs more and increase flexibility?





2) Nutrition.



Seeing as I am currently overweight, this is one of the more important questions.



In South Africa, we eat A LOT of meat, and I believe this has contributed to my current health issues. I'm changing my diet to one involving more veggies, fruits, carbs, nuts and occasional meats. I'm also cutting out pre-packed meals and junk food completely and eating up to 6 times a day, making sure what I eat is considered "healthy" or "wholesome", which isn't difficult to figure out really, just eat what's more "natural". As a result, I'm feeling tons better and have far more energy!



So, for running, what kinds of foods should I be focussing on?



I'm going to be eating healthier in general, but are their any recommended foods? I've been making and eating/drinking iskiate and pinole which are making me feel great, and are very similar to foods I grew up eating here anyway, except for the addition of the chia seeds and some other slight differences.





3) Where should I be feeling it? And how do I know if I'm doing it right?





Currently, when I run I feel it in my calves and achilles tendons mostly. They hurt afterwards, but not in a bad way, just like they've been worked and they feel great once I give them a day or so to rest. My musculature overall is also improving, especially in my legs. I don't hurt anywhere and I don't feel it really anywhere else. Is that normal?



When I was running with shoes, my inner calves, ankles and feet hurt, and I would have knee problems as well.





Technique is also very important. I'm obviously using the foot-strike form, but mostly just running in a way that feels right. My pilates instructor was running barefoot for a few months before me, and she took a look at my form and just suggested I watch my right foot as I kick it out to the right too much, which meant my hips were swinging a bit (probably as a result of my car accident which gave me occasional hip problems), so I have to concentrate on that when running as well. But, how do I know if I'm doing it right? I'm told that running barefoot you will automatically get the right technique as long as you give your body time to adapt.





I'm not doing too much at once, I currently run 2-3 times a week, about 3kms (2 miles) in about 30 min, and I stop if anything hurts. I'm taking it slowly as, even though I ran barefoot as a kid, it's been years since I've run at all and I'm bound to injure myself if I'm not patient with my body.





4) Overall fitness results? Any other exercises?



Runners always seem to be rippling with muscles, or at least are thin and cut.



If an unfit, overweight person just runs a lot (and eats right etc), will they gain a "runners body" (something like this http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/12/article-0-091999F4000005DC-118_468x662.jpg) or will they need to do other exercises as well, such as push-ups, sit-ups etc?



If other exercisers are required, what do you recommend? Currently I do pilates exercises mostly as well as running, but time requirements soon might mean I only have time for running...







I'll post more questions when I can think of them, but these are the four that spring to mind right now! I'd appreciate any advice and general tips :D



Thanks!
 
1- I do not stretch. I do not

1- I do not stretch. I do not believe in it. There are plenty of studies that show that stretching a "cold" muscle (as in before a run) does more harm than good. I do believe in warming up. I walk for a given amount of time, slow pace, then gradually increase to my run pace. Same goes for cooling down, just in reverse order.



2- You cant go wrong with the general guidelines of paleo eating. The less processed the better, the more natural the better. There is tons of info here about eating paleo along with other places around the internet. Here are some links- link 1 and link 2. I follow the guidelines layed out by Phil Maffetone, similar to paleo with little differences.



3- I am no expert on form/gait, but if it hurts (other then the normal soreness of transitioning) then you are not doing it right. If it doesnt hurt, you are most likely doing it right (make sure you are barefoot). If you have any other doubts you can record yourself running, post it on youtube and link it here and smarter people then me can help you further.



4- Not every runner you are going to encounter is shredded to the bone. And running or exercising alone is not going to get you there. Diet is a HUGE part of your fitness. I am going to make up a number and say 80% is diet and 20% is exercising. As far as exercises in particular, alot of people are fans of Crossfit. I used to do alot of crossfit exercises but a change in my training has lead me to more bodyweight exercises (there are tons of variations of pushups, core exercises, lower body exercises, pullups, dips, etc....). Try following a program, if you like, stick with it (thats the key part) if you dont, pick another one of the hundreds of other programs.
 
1) Yeah, I do warmups and

1) Yeah, I do warmups and cooldowns. I've found that just sudden stretching usually leads to a minor injury of some sort. What I usually do is warmup a bit, then stop and do some minor stretches for a few seconds, then run and repeat every kilometre or half a mile or so, then cooldown with a longish walk towards the end of the run. But thanks for confirming this for me :)



2) Paleo eating! Haha, I like the sound of that! Thanks for the links, will do some reading.

On another running forum, someone suggested the low carb, high fat diet: http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf It's actually similar to my current diet, except that I do eat rice and a few other startches. But I think I'll still go a more fruit and veggie route, getting sick of meat (something I never thought I'd say).



3) So far, I haven't had any pains of any kind beyond feeling like my achilles tendon and calves have been worked. I think because I have a BF background, the transition is minor for me and it seems I am doing it right as I'm having no other lingering pains. I may just do the youtube video as you suggested, I'll see how it goes :)



4) I've been told diet is THE main contributer to weightloss, health and overall fitness, so I'll focus on that a lot when I get to Scotland. My pilates instructor has left me with a set of excercises I can keep doing which are geared towards assisting my running training (as she is also a BF runner), so I'll make sure to continue it then with my running.





Thanks very much for the feedback and the links! :D I feel like I'm getting great feedback from my endevours :)
 
Our dog is an ex-racing

Our dog is an ex-racing greyhound. One of the first things he does after he gets up from one of his MANY power naps is STRETCH. He also does this just before we go out to play in the yard.

I've tried to convince him that stretching cold muscles is bad... but really I think he's just working out the kinks from 20+ hours of sleeping the only way he knows how. Oh well.... at least he's got the barefoot running thing down to an art (he's crazy fast). ;)

S. Pimp.
 
swedishpimple wrote:Our dog

swedishpimple said:
Our dog is an ex-racing greyhound. One of the first things he does after he gets up from one of his MANY power naps is STRETCH. He also does this just before we go out to play in the yard.

I've tried to convince him that stretching cold muscles is bad... but really I think he's just working out the kinks from 20+ hours of sleeping the only way he knows how. Oh well.... at least he's got the barefoot running thing down to an art (he's crazy fast). ;)

S. Pimp.

Seriously laughed out loud! Love it.
 
Hahahahahaha! Awesome! But

Hahahahahaha! Awesome! But point taken! ;p
 
1. I don't stretch before. 

1. I don't stretch before. Sometimes after or during. I also stretch on my every-other days off. That is to say, I give my body lots of time to recover form my runs.

2. I ran BF for more than a year and lost zero pounds. I started paying attention to my eating habits (cutting out a good deal of gratuitous dietary fat like cream in my coffee a couple times a day and ice cream a couple times a week) and eating a lot more pulses and less meat. I went from 195 to 180 in less than 2 months with no other changes in my running.

3. You should be feeling it on a regular and high priorty basis. Make running a central part of your list of what's important and you'll find everything else coming 'round like form and speed and strength. It will be slow, but consistant. Don't look for magic, quick changes. You are a runner if you run. You get to be a better runner if you pay attention to how you run.

4. Other excercises? Isn't running enough for the time being? (See #3)
 
Thanks for the feedback! All

Thanks for the feedback! All this info is helping a lot :D
 
as a dietitian, its all

as a dietitian, its all calories in vs calories expended, but as an athlete, that has to be monitored- losing more than 2 pounds a week (on average) will make you more susceptile to injury...

that said I truly believe that athletes need to eat 30-40% of their calories in protein, 20-30% in fat and the rest in carbs (veggies and fruit are the best carbs, but starch is needed in some amount by most of us). the important thing is this is calories not weight- fat is denser- 9 kcal/gram than carbs or proteins (4kcal/gram).



Good luck, just removing the processed junk can make a huge difference for most people. And mindful eating is paying attention to what you really need- most people eat way more than they need to these days
 
I never stretch before or

I never stretch before or after running....its not important either way...just warmup slowly and do some massaging afterwards if your muscles are tight... thats much more important than stretching.

I follow the Paleo diet like some others here....your exercise doesn't have a whole lot to do with your weight, its mostly diet. Just search on the intertnet for Paleo diet...there is lots of stuff about it if your interested.

I can't prove it but I believe there is a benefit to your overall health from barefoot running...its subtle but its there! You have to experience it yourself to understand....no one on their death bed said they wished they ran less barefoot miles!
 
I'm with what the others

I'm with what the others said. I don't really stretch, but I flex my feet, calves, ankles, etc and start out slow trying to get some heat in them. Most of my stretching is after.

I too get sore in my calves, but achillies is not where you want to be feeling it. TJ has mentioned studies that show prolonged use of thick healed shoes can cause a shortening of the achilies tendon and that will take some time to come down. Barefoot around the house and any time you don't have to wear shoes will help and I have huaraches and VFFs I wear when barefoot is not possible. Do keep up with your form and make sure your heal is making contact and you are not running on your tip toes. Barefoot Running Step by Step is a good manual for correct running form.

Diet is a struggle and something you'll have to play around with to find the right balance for you. Not enough and you could feel worn down, get head aches and eventually binge...at least that's me!

For cross training, I'm a big fan of the book Body for Life by Bill Phillips. It's very motivational in the beginning, lots of before and afters that make you feel like you can do it cause...look at them! The effort level high point training technique he uses also lets you get the concept in your head so it's simple and easy to follow and aply. I played sports and lifted weights all through high school and I never put on muscle like I did in the first 90 days on his program! My wife just bought a copy at half price books for $8.

Just like lifting weights, you don't get stronger or faster from working out...you get stronger and faster from healing after your work out, so don't forget to rest. Nothing wrong with a recovery run to losten up or really light lifting for the same, but the hardest thing for me is to lay off and let my body fully recover.



Wow...sorry this turned into kinda a book. Best of luck, Boss!!

-Jonny
 
I would suggest that if your

I would suggest that if your achilles is hurting something may be wrong. I'm not sure what it is as I'm still new to this whole thing as well, but I do know that if you injure your achilles it could go down hill fast.
 
Hey Flangenimblick,There's

Hey Flangenimblick,

There's only one area that you're asking about that I know much about so I will stick to #1. Static stretching (stretch and hold) is unnecessary and can actually decrease performance. There have been numerous studies showing this and in the world of exercise science / sports performance, static stretching is seen as somewhat archaic. Having said that, it can be used AFTER exercise as a way to improve flexibility or as a corrective measure for imbalances.

If I had to give any sort of tip, it would be the exact same as FreeYourToes mentioned in his reply. Good advice. I also think you were right in your thoughts on active animals vs. sedentary animals. We certainly don't live the way we used to! (unfortunately)

Keep running...
 

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