Doctors really need to find
Doctors really need to find out if people are running in minshoes like VFFs or are actually running barefoot before they make false claims. Simple asking and honest reporting will do a world of good to move humans in the right direction of more healthy living.
Again, people are being led to believe that "barefoot" runners are the ones with all these "new" injuries when it's people who are running in minshoes. Not to say barefoot runners don't get injured, we do, just not as often, not for the same reasons, and surely not from running in shoes. Too many times I read where someone has falsely led their doctor into believing that they were running barefoot when they were actually running with something on their feet (or the doctor has assumed by, once again, being influenced by the almighty marketing machines that running in minshoes is the same as running barefoot, so they call minshoe running barefoot running).
Let's call it what it is here. If you are running with something on your feet, you are not bare in the foot. Please do not go to your doctor and tell them you were running bare in the foot if you were actually running with something on your feet.
Doctors really need to find out if people are running in minshoes like VFFs or are actually running barefoot before they make false claims. Simple asking and honest reporting will do a world of good to move humans in the right direction of more healthy living.
Again, people are being led to believe that "barefoot" runners are the ones with all these "new" injuries when it's people who are running in minshoes. Not to say barefoot runners don't get injured, we do, just not as often, not for the same reasons, and surely not from running in shoes. Too many times I read where someone has falsely led their doctor into believing that they were running barefoot when they were actually running with something on their feet (or the doctor has assumed by, once again, being influenced by the almighty marketing machines that running in minshoes is the same as running barefoot, so they call minshoe running barefoot running).
Let's call it what it is here. If you are running with something on your feet, you are not bare in the foot. Please do not go to your doctor and tell them you were running bare in the foot if you were actually running with something on your feet.
stomper
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This article isn't new. The
This article isn't new. The same thing was published last September.. http://running.competitor.com/2010/05/features/the-barefoot-running-injury-epidemic_10118
And then as now, the story has the same problems. Just because certain doctors are seeing more injuries doesn't mean anything about the RATE of injury associated with BFR or MR. It might merely mean that more people are trying. To actually know injury rates, you'd need a fairly large study comparing groups of runners... say BFRs vs. MRs vs. people in regular shoes.
This article isn't new. The same thing was published last September.. http://running.competitor.com/2010/05/features/the-barefoot-running-injury-epidemic_10118
And then as now, the story has the same problems. Just because certain doctors are seeing more injuries doesn't mean anything about the RATE of injury associated with BFR or MR. It might merely mean that more people are trying. To actually know injury rates, you'd need a fairly large study comparing groups of runners... say BFRs vs. MRs vs. people in regular shoes.
At the very beginning of the
At the very beginning of the article it says people are in the clinic for heel striking barefoot. The whole purpose of barefoot running is to mid or fore foot land. If their in the clinic for heel striking it's because of their own stupidity! How crazy is that? It is blatenly obvious that you don't heel strike barefoot, that's the whole entire point? Why the @#$! would you heel strike running barefoot? Sounds to me like there is a bunch of un informed people out doing something without finding out the facts first!
At the very beginning of the article it says people are in the clinic for heel striking barefoot. The whole purpose of barefoot running is to mid or fore foot land. If their in the clinic for heel striking it's because of their own stupidity! How crazy is that? It is blatenly obvious that you don't heel strike barefoot, that's the whole entire point? Why the @#$! would you heel strike running barefoot? Sounds to me like there is a bunch of un informed people out doing something without finding out the facts first!
It's not barefoot runners who
It's not barefoot runners who are heel striking, NR. It's minimalist runners who are heel striking and telling their doctors, or their doctors are assuming, that they were running barefoot. They have people brainwashed that running barefoot and minimal is the same thing, and it's giving BFR a bad name. That's why we have to be clear about what we are telling our doctors.
Yes, Stomper, I recognized the article is an old one, but with a new date. I guess when we start running out of stuff to write about here, we can always republish stuff we'd already published earlier. ;-)
It's not barefoot runners who are heel striking, NR. It's minimalist runners who are heel striking and telling their doctors, or their doctors are assuming, that they were running barefoot. They have people brainwashed that running barefoot and minimal is the same thing, and it's giving BFR a bad name. That's why we have to be clear about what we are telling our doctors.
Yes, Stomper, I recognized the article is an old one, but with a new date. I guess when we start running out of stuff to write about here, we can always republish stuff we'd already published earlier. ;-)
Um...do we know anyone around
Um...do we know anyone around here who runs BF (really) and has Plantar Fasciitis problems? I don't think I've heard that mentioned in conjunction with relly BF running.
Um...do we know anyone around here who runs BF (really) and has Plantar Fasciitis problems? I don't think I've heard that mentioned in conjunction with relly BF running.
"runners with injuries
"runners with injuries caused by barefoot (or virtually barefoot) running." EXACTLY...virtually barefoot!! I see it all the time. I actually ran into a guy at the golf course the other day who was wearing VFFs. He had no idea what he was talking about. He heard that it was supposed to be better, so he decided to try them out. Everything that I was telling him seemed to be new information. Luckily he was interested, and said he would check out our site. He also mentioned that his friend got a pair prior to him and went out and ran 6 miles and injured himself.
I ran into a guy at Scheels that said the same thing. "Yea... I heard they are supposed to stop injuries." It is people like this that are giving barefoot running such a bad rap. They are just going out and buying these minshoes, and then going for their "virtually barefoot" run like normal. What is it with people not informing themselves before doing something new? I'm sure that most of us on this site have read at least one barefoot running book, or at least have watched multiple videos on YouTube, and have received information from reliable sources.
BTW... while having golfing on my mind; here in a few weeks I am going to give barefoot golfing a try. I'm really excited!
"runners with injuries caused by barefoot (or virtually barefoot) running." EXACTLY...virtually barefoot!! I see it all the time. I actually ran into a guy at the golf course the other day who was wearing VFFs. He had no idea what he was talking about. He heard that it was supposed to be better, so he decided to try them out. Everything that I was telling him seemed to be new information. Luckily he was interested, and said he would check out our site. He also mentioned that his friend got a pair prior to him and went out and ran 6 miles and injured himself.
I ran into a guy at Scheels that said the same thing. "Yea... I heard they are supposed to stop injuries." It is people like this that are giving barefoot running such a bad rap. They are just going out and buying these minshoes, and then going for their "virtually barefoot" run like normal. What is it with people not informing themselves before doing something new? I'm sure that most of us on this site have read at least one barefoot running book, or at least have watched multiple videos on YouTube, and have received information from reliable sources.
BTW... while having golfing on my mind; here in a few weeks I am going to give barefoot golfing a try. I'm really excited!
running bf or even in my vff
running bf or even in my vff helped me get rid of my PF. i learned first NOT to heel strike before i even tried it. lucky for me i was too out of shape to go too far and hurt myself. people are sheep and do something before learning the proper steps then once they get hurt they can blame someone else. no one likes to be responsible for themselves anymore.
mike
running bf or even in my vff helped me get rid of my PF. i learned first NOT to heel strike before i even tried it. lucky for me i was too out of shape to go too far and hurt myself. people are sheep and do something before learning the proper steps then once they get hurt they can blame someone else. no one likes to be responsible for themselves anymore.
mike
I am always amazed at how out
I am always amazed at how out of touch people are with their own bodies, and I've learned to just accept that it's the case. Sometimes I think barefoot running is not for everybody because people do really have psychological blocks to their own body's feedback mechanisms. I've seen it with women who try to birth naturally and, honestly, really should have gotten the epidural. And I think there are some people who really just need shoes because they cannot discern their body's truth.
I am always amazed at how out of touch people are with their own bodies, and I've learned to just accept that it's the case. Sometimes I think barefoot running is not for everybody because people do really have psychological blocks to their own body's feedback mechanisms. I've seen it with women who try to birth naturally and, honestly, really should have gotten the epidural. And I think there are some people who really just need shoes because they cannot discern their body's truth.
Neil_D
Chapter Presidents
Well, you know the old saying
Well, you know the old saying "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" I think this applies here.
If people remove their shoes, go for a run and injure themselves then you can't blame the feet you have to blame the brain that controls the feet.
I wonder if, when I injured myself when wearing my Asic 2110 around 3 years ago the doctor would draw the conclusion that the shoes were defective and caused the injury.
Probably not, he would most likely put the blame on me for running too fast, too slow or running in general (after all we all know we were not made for running, humans were designed to sit on couches watching mind numbing TV).
If barefoot runners get injuries you have to look on it as paying your dues. Nothing is free. Persistance pays off though, bit by bit you do learn.
I have heard a saying that says: you have to practice a skill for around 10,000 hours before you will have mastered it perfectly.
Does a bloke off the street practice 10 hours with a scalpel and call himself a surgeon, or in a flight simulator and call himself a pilot, or knock a golf ball around and become Tiger Woods, why would it be any different with running.
Neil
Well, you know the old saying "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" I think this applies here.
If people remove their shoes, go for a run and injure themselves then you can't blame the feet you have to blame the brain that controls the feet.
I wonder if, when I injured myself when wearing my Asic 2110 around 3 years ago the doctor would draw the conclusion that the shoes were defective and caused the injury.
Probably not, he would most likely put the blame on me for running too fast, too slow or running in general (after all we all know we were not made for running, humans were designed to sit on couches watching mind numbing TV).
If barefoot runners get injuries you have to look on it as paying your dues. Nothing is free. Persistance pays off though, bit by bit you do learn.
I have heard a saying that says: you have to practice a skill for around 10,000 hours before you will have mastered it perfectly.
Does a bloke off the street practice 10 hours with a scalpel and call himself a surgeon, or in a flight simulator and call himself a pilot, or knock a golf ball around and become Tiger Woods, why would it be any different with running.
Neil
Matt wrote:mykroberts
To be honest, I had no idea I was doing it at the time and my heel didn't bruise or anything. On the other hand I doubt I was doing it for long - was probably a combination of fatigue/slowing down at the finish line.
http://www.marathonfoto.com/index.cfm?action=site.login&RaceOID=13542011S1&LastName=ROBERTS%20&BibNumber=2651
Matt said:Who won? Your heel or the concrete?mykroberts said:I have pictures of myself to prove otherwiseMatt said:
To be honest, I had no idea I was doing it at the time and my heel didn't bruise or anything. On the other hand I doubt I was doing it for long - was probably a combination of fatigue/slowing down at the finish line.
http://www.marathonfoto.com/index.cfm?action=site.login&RaceOID=13542011S1&LastName=ROBERTS%20&BibNumber=2651
Heel striking isn't going to
Heel striking isn't going to hurt you...unless you do it all the time. I tend to heel strike some when I am tired, but as soon as I strike my heels a few times, I correct myself, and start running over my center again. That's what is meant when people say you won't heel strike barefoot, because it's not comfortable to heel strike, so you won't do it repetitively, over and over again during your run. You will feel it, take note, and correct it; whereas someone running in cushioned high heels doesn't get that feetback (Ken Bob's pun).
Heel striking isn't going to hurt you...unless you do it all the time. I tend to heel strike some when I am tired, but as soon as I strike my heels a few times, I correct myself, and start running over my center again. That's what is meant when people say you won't heel strike barefoot, because it's not comfortable to heel strike, so you won't do it repetitively, over and over again during your run. You will feel it, take note, and correct it; whereas someone running in cushioned high heels doesn't get that feetback (Ken Bob's pun).
