Running on a frying pan....

megabarefoot

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ALso known as running in the summer on the occasional black top. Soo, I've finally made some consistant progress in that I ran my first 5.2 miles last week totally barefoot on varied surfaces. It went fine; I just need to smooth out the form and get into a habitual rhythm which will come with practice. This will be my first summer and today my first day of running in 80+ degree, full sun, weather. Do any of you seasoned BFRers run on the black top, even for a short distance? That stuff is bloody hot and it certainly makes you pick up the tempo like one of those damn desert lizards running on sand. The run isn't totally on black top, just a short part of it. I can understand the foot adapting to cold and other rough conditions but that amount of heat is rough. Then again I couldn't imagine my foot being able to handle miles of gravel but it does.
 
Pick up your feet faster and

Pick up your feet faster and run on the white/yellow line. I cannot comment on getting your feet used to the heat but I'm sure they do.
 
mega, having grown up in

mega, having grown up in Florida I can say that eventually it gets too hot to bear no matter what you do! As @dmcchesney said, run on the lines and it will help.

I have found that limited exposure does help build up your tolerance (and maybe your skin), but to be able to run more than 50 feet on blacktop in the summer is not a reality, at least for me. Some people claim they can, and I knew a guy as a kid who could stand on black tar in August barefoot in the hottest part of the day (he was a professional martial artist), but he's the only one.

In fact, last night at 7:30 the sidewalk was still too hot to run on for my full 2 miles; I had to break off and hit a trail so I didn't end up with blisters.
 
I've made it up to 96f at

I've made it up to 96f at noon here in Phoenix. I went a couple of miles on asphalt and it was pretty painful towards the end. I didn't get any blisters though and the faster I went the better it felt. Concrete I can do much higher.
 
hmduey wrote:As I have found

hmduey said:
As I have found that limited exposure does help build up your tolerance (and maybe your skin), but to be able to run more than 50 feet on blacktop in the summer is not a reality, at least for me.

I figure you can adapt to the heat somewhat, but I wonder if you are actually damaging nerves from the intense heat?
 
That stuff is bloody hot and

That stuff is bloody hot and it certainly makes you pick up the tempo like one of those damn desert lizards running on sand.

Hahahahahaha!

I save the heat for the loonies. I run at the coolest part of the day, whether that be morning, evening, and now coming up on night.
 
But not how you smell, huh? 

But not how you smell, huh? Ha!
 
Jonny00GT wrote:Have you

Jonny00GT said:
Have you seen b1004u's socks? Maybe a good idea there...



-Jonny



Jonny, post a link please. I've no clue to what you are referring.

I've thought about just taking my huaraches with me for the blacktop or just ensure that I get out before it gets too bad. I can't imagine continous exposure to that level of heat is a good thing for the skin, even if leathered from running.
 
In Taiwan, it gets quite hot

In Taiwan, it gets quite hot early in the year and stays hot until later in the year. I run in the mornings and try to get my running done before the sun has been up for a while. During the summer, the sun seems to come up at 5am. Starts getting too hot air wise, let alone road wise, by 7am.
 
well, I did about 4 miles and

well, I did about 4 miles and enough of it was asphalt that it was fairly miserable due to the heat from the material. I was able to do 5.2 miles last friday on the same route but it was no where near as warm as today. I'm not doing it again any time soon; it's gonna be in the morning or not at all unless I have footwear. The heated asphalt made my feet way too sensitive and by the time I got to the gravel section, there was a blister forming and my form was very sloppy. Most of the run was such a drag, worst I've ever had, and that is counting the run that fractured my metatarsal. It was a real test of my mental endurance to get thru it. Maybe it was more the form and less the heat and it was just a sh!tty run day, I dunno. The heated surface certainly didn't help.

I enjoy BFR, but not in those conditions; totally not worth it. The heat combined with the one road that is nothing but rough-potted roadway really, really sucked. Gravel is smooth compared to it. I'm doing it again friday morning way before the sun has the chance to heat anything and even then I'm taking footwear with me.
 
Sorry about the bummer run,

Sorry about the bummer run, MB. And yes, if it's not feeling good to you, don't repeat the behavior, especially if it will only turn you off from running barefoot. At least you have a plan going forward to keep you in the game.
 
Hi MB,Living in Adelaide,

Hi MB,

Living in Adelaide, where it gets very hot, you learn to run fast. We can get temperatures up to 45C (113F). I don't run in those kind of temperatures which are usually in the daylight hours, I'll wait for the sun to go down or run on the beach.

I think the hottest I have run in would be around 33C (91F), it can get a bit painful if you chose the wrong surface. I stick to brick paving or concrete, bitumin is like walking on hot coals.

One tip is this: if the pavement has grass alongside, run closer to that edge as the heat disipates into the ground more than in the centre of the path. Also if there is a painted white line they are good for keeping the feet cool.

I did get some burns on the underside of my feet during the summer but they repaired in a week.



Neil
 
 megabarefoot

megabarefoot said:
Jonny00GT said:
Have you seen b1004u's socks? Maybe a good idea there...



-Jonny



Jonny, post a link please. I've no clue to what you are referring.

I've thought about just taking my huaraches with me for the blacktop or just ensure that I get out before it gets too bad. I can't imagine continous exposure to that level of heat is a good thing for the skin, even if leathered from running.

Sorry...over in the footwear forum: http://barefootrunners.org/forum-topic/barefoot-socks-cheap-comfy-diy-minimalist-running-option



I ran about 5pm yesterday and it was right at 88deg outside...no idea what the concrete was, but it would appear either I hadn't healed nearly enough from Saturday's run or heat Powned me, but I only made it .8miles before my feet were toast and had to put on my Bikilas. The blisters on the blades of my foot came back and brought friends for my big toes. The ball of my foot also feels blistered, but no fluid to speak of.

If heat or barefooting wrong brings up blisters, what's a good amount of time to lay off and let them heal? I mean, I'm about to go running now, but in Injinji socks and my Komodosports for maximum foot protection, but when can I go feet streakin again without being stopped cold by blisters that haven't healed?

-Jonny

PS: In spite of the blisters, I think my form was the best it's been so far! The pain of the blisters really made me focus on not scuffing, pawing, twisting and picking straight up and putting straight down with knees well bent and hips turned under, loose feet! Blast these tender feet!!!
 
Jonny how much time do you

Jonny how much time do you spend barefoot normally? I think the quickest fix for blisters is to not wear shoes at all during the day. This allows the old skin to dry out and the new skin to toughen up faster in my experience.
 
So, from November to March

So, from November to March it's too cold to run barefoot, and from May to September it's too hot.

That leaves April and October, if we're lucky. I think I'll give up barefoot running and try barefoot forum reading during the long off-seasons.