Running speed

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BareFootBC said:
You guys are exhausting me...barefoot in the hammock is having a huge appeal right now.
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You're not going off topic, are you? Wicked creature.

Thanks to @The Mole and to everyone else for their fascinating input. I've been trying to puzzle this out too.
I did a stress test recently. The great news was that my heart and lungs are fine, even under stress, but the doctor did recommend that I work more often in the 152-157 bpm range to increase my something or other.
In order to do this, I need to run more slowly. But I was starting to feel that I was ridiculous, stepping in place, so I would slow the cadence, then get tired, so I'd speed up the cadence and not be able to resist speeding up the running too...
A vicious circle.
(Q. What's round and dangerous...)
 
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The Mole said:
My sister in-law is like that, runs for ever but nice and slow.... i like the way that barefoot/minimalist running is all about the running and not the speed and if you win or not !!!!
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perfectly wrapped it up in just two lines ;)

of course any of us should run/walk as she/he enjoys more, but to the original question there's no average running speed for barefoot runners, as there's no for shod runners. You can draw a gaussian distribution with all of us.

We tend to run slower because we need to learn without damage our (lovely) feet, but one should find his/her own pace in which it feels great to run
 
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Thanks for all the feedback guys and gals !!!!!
The other day I did 10 minutes at 10k, 10 minutes at 11k and then 10 minutes at 12k and as
Trevise mentioned at the faster speed my cadence is much higher around 193 but at 10k speed its about 180-183.
 
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The Mole said:
Thanks for all the feedback guys and gals !!!!!
The other day I did 10 minutes at 10k, 10 minutes at 11k and then 10 minutes at 12k and as
Trevise mentioned at the faster speed my cadence is much higher around 193 but at 10k speed its about 180-183.
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Great! If I'm going to make a "mistake" on my cadence I'd choose too high over too low any day. I'm sure if you're an elite looking for every little competitive advantage you'd want to dial it in to exactly right but if Nike isn't paying your plane ticket to your next race ... then 193 isn't bad at all. It might be a quicker cadence than you need but you're most definitely stepping light and easy. Go a little too slow with your cadence and you've got more impact, rely on more raw muscle power, less efficient, less enjoyable ...

Keep that cadence high. After some more experience you might find it normalizing a bit but for now if a quicker cadence is helping go with that.
 
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Noodles said:
You're not going off topic, are you? Wicked creature.


(Q. What's round and dangerous...)
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Cheeky Madam- I’ll have you know that I rolled out of that extremely comfortable hammock (several times now) and have been focusing on the 180 cadence thingy with some degree of success!

A vicious circle of course.

;)
 
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well my theory was just messed up, went out for a small 6k today and wanted to keep it slow due the Achilles playing up and stuck to around 10k speed and my watch recorded an average cadence of 191 !!!!!!!!!
I think I'm broken !!!!!!!
 
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Tedlet said:
...and how did the Achilles feel?
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Thanks for asking Tedlet, Well on Saturday the wife was moaning that i was running every day and that it wasn’t good for me so i got up and did an hour on the cross trainer and it made the Achilles really hurt to the point I had 2 days off, then today on the run it felt really good.... I need to get my arse outside barefoot but my logic is at the moment that if it starts hurting i can just get off the treadmill
 
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Tedlet said:
Sounds like a 6k run with a cadence of around 190 & staying injury/pain free is about right then... (although that could just be me looking at it too simplistically);)...
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I think from now on I’m just going to run and do re runs of joe wicks..... gym opens tomorrow but I don’t know if I’m going to go back.... lost just under a stone since lock down and i think most of its muscle due to not doing any weights but I’m looking at myself and thinking i don’t really care .
Think I’d rather work on improving my running now instead !!!!!
 
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Sometimes I run fast because it just happens, feels relaxed and easy. Today I figured out one way to get into such drive. On one trail, there is a big stone that I jump on and then drop off and continue running without stopping and many times it starts to go really fast just after that. Well, it happens for reason and I have seen it elsewhere - in approach run of high jumping.

Like this.

I tested it shortly and seems to work - take a couple of high bounding steps (maybe lean a bit forwards) and then you have a bouncy gait to go on. Works on trails, haven't tested elsewhere. I have been bit sick and shouldn't actually be running, couldn't test it very much.
 
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