Paleo dieters - you need to see this...

I'm eating Paleo for some years now and found the first video quiet interesting. Nothing new for me there except the idea with the broccoli in a vase, but it was a long way to go to be where I'm now.
I incorporated foraging into my Paleo version and that's functioning really good!

I can add this two videos of Arthur Haines, who's actual living Paleo in combination with foraging and bushcraft.



There's a lot more practical wisdom there, because he's really doing it, instead of just talking about it, like the scientist in the video.

And you can go and do it also! It's a long way to go but you can do it barefoot... and it's better then just running around...! :D
 
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The series Ray Mears Wild Food was pretty interesting, he travelled around looking at ancient hunting methods and food gathering/prep methods from ancient times, some of the episodes he had a Professor of Archaeobotany with him and they tried out ancient food prep methods, eating what they'd made to test it. :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Food

Edit: Oh, seems you can watch them on Youtube! :)

Edit2: BTW I'm going to see Ray speak about this on 10/25. :D
 
I've Ray Mears book Wild Food and can recommend it. It's accompanies the series, but I think it's more for people who are also into bushcraft.

For the beginning forager there're...

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http://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/B003LSTEGO/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1380708964&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX110_SY165

And of course...

http://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/0976626616/ref=pd_aw_sims_1?pi=SL500_SY115

Bye,
Alex
 
Lee, waste from farm to table more than your plate. also in the store. it's been said there is more than enough food produced just not enough money to buy it.
 
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Keep in mind that a high-carb diet is not natural. It is only practical due to the processing of grains (that removes most of the natural nutritional value in favor of pure carbs). A diet based mostly (or in many cases, as is mine, exclusively) on plants (mostly unrefined, except occasional treats) - and some fungus/mushrooms - and a bit of honey occasionally, is NOT a high-carb diet. It is a nutritionally balanced diet. Any seed (from the plant kingdom) is a complete food, packed with nutrients and energy, in the form of fat, protein, carbohydrates, and lots of other vitamins and minerals enough to give a young plant a good start before it sends out enough roots and grows leaves to gather nutrition from the air and soil. Only since the industrial age did it became practical to provide refined white flour to the masses, which almost immediately began suffering the diseases of the upper class (who could afford diets rich in meats, and refined flours, etc., long before the masses). Do NOT confuse "carbs" with real food (plant or otherwise), which is becoming more and more difficult to find as we give control over our food supply to large chemical companies who will be sure to destroy our ability to grow and control real foods in the future... but of course, that's another story, but not entirely.
 
Wow, he stopped short of calling Adkins the devil!
 
I gave her 12 minutes, which was more than fair and far more than she deserved. From what I remember of it,

1) she presented no evidence that paleolithic people didn't eat mainly meat, merely cast aspersions on the idea by stating that the ponderous supporting evidence is somehow lacking. Apparently paleolithics weren't using all those stone spearheads to kill prey. All the tools that are demonstrably for cutting meat and working hides were set aside for emergencies while they ground their staple grains with mortar and pestle. I doubt it.

2) She makes a big deal about arguing that bone mineral content is ambiguous and doesn't conclusively demonstrate meat consumption. I am still persuaded by the overwhelmingly meat-eating purpose of the stone tools.

3) she irrelevantly pointed out that modern meats were mostly unavailable in the paleolithic, as if anyone today were advocating eating aurochs or cave bear.

4) declined to present any evidence that paleolithic people practiced agriculture, or any evidence that their grain consumption could have resembled the modern diet without it. Maybe she has invented clever methods of living off wild grains with nothing but a mortar and pestle to process them, but she didn't enlighten us.

5) prefers to debate the straw man, referring to paleo from the start as a "fad" represented by kooky paperback writers. Suggesting that paleo is all about red meat was particularly slick. Not once in the first 12 minutes did she make actual arguments about nutrition. Not a good way to start a presentation about a diet.

6) falsely claims that people are not adapted to eating meat, then tries to back it up by showing that we're not obligate carnivores. That we are capable of eating plants somehow proves we primarily ate them. She points out that we have molars for grinding, then absurdly states we have no canine teeth in front of them. That we can't synthesize vitamin C, something a few roots and berries or liver can fix.

She ignores the general consensus among paleontologists that human brain size increased due to the consumption of high-calorie meat. We have smaller hindguts than our great ape cousins and are less efficient at processing plant material. Meat is digested quickly and efficiently before it reaches the hindgut. It is easier to procure meat calories in large amounts when agriculture is unavailable, particularly in temperate climates where there is little or nothing to gather much of the year.

If this presenter wants people to think meat wasn't the staple of the paleolithic, she should start digging. She'll need to find some plows to match the spear points.
 
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Alright, all you folks! There's a Giveaway contest going on right now in the Gear & Footwear forum for a book, The Paleo Manifesto, written by John Durant, fellow barefoot runner and founder of the NYC Barefoot Run.

JOHN DURANT is the author of The Paleo Manifesto. Durant studied evolutionary psychology at Harvard prior to founding Paleo NYC and Barefoot Runners NYC. He has been featured in the New York Times, The Colbert Report, NPR, and the New Yorker. He blogs at HunterGatherer.com.

Even if you may have some difference of understanding, wouldn't you like to read what he says?

Please show him some support and post in his contest thread:
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All diets are fads. My solution is I don't diet. I just eat healthy, and never deprive myself of "bad" food. This whole paleo things is really strange to me. I was young my mom cooked Paleo, we didn't have a lot of money so there was no junk food in the house. My mom always cooked great dinners, meats, veggies, potatoes, rice, salads, etc. So I naturally progressed knowing what food is sh!t and what is not.
 
I've been digging back through the forum history and read this thread a few days ago. It has me thinking and wondering...
I find it fascinating that bare-footers, who are happy to disregard the running 'science' of recent decades care at all what nutrition 'science' of the same era says. Conventional wisdom is interesting stuff hey :)
 
For the record, I don't either.
About 15 years ago one of my doctors suggested going gluten free because he'd found people with autoimmune conditions do better without it. I did that and gradually removed all grains (they send my thyroid nuts), nightshades (they just make me feel off) and processed foods (preservatives upset my arthritis symptoms). What I eat is pretty close to what they now call the paleo (stupid name) or primal (a less stupid name) way of eating but not because I read about it, just because it helps me feel well.