Transitioning from shoes to fivefingers

#21
Sid said:
That's a solid amount of running/walking! Have you thought about doing some non-ambulatory cardio like rowing or swimming while transitioning, so that you can let your feet and lower legs rest?
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I actually do that too. Besides what I mentioned there I lift weights 4-5 days a week plus I do this cardio/interval thing too where I row 1 min, do dips and then chins, in a circle, for an hour and I'm completely worn out afterwards cardio wise.


7 km is really far when brand new to this kind of running. In miles for those of you that don't know, that is about 4 and 1/3 miles at a time. Generally we recommend a mile tops, or 1.60934 km. I was able to do a mile and a half, but that is pretty abnormal. I do hope you listen to us and not try to do too much because you are in such good shape in all your other muscles. Muscles will adapt pretty fast, but bone takes some time.
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Wolf's law. bones take a few months to adapt to new demands. better to keep the runs short. really short. otherwise fractured metatarsals will force you to rest. that's why everyone recommends bf first. your skin and bones match up pretty well as far as ability. feeling sore? stop.

either way when it's not fun or your getting fatigued. pack it in.

good luck.
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Thank you Nick and Mike.​
I really appreciate your advise. This is why I ask for your opinion. Because I really don't know how much is too much. ​
I clearly see now that what I had in mind is way too much. What I might need to make more clear is that I did plan to run very little of in the "runs/walks" in the beginning and walk the most of it, but I think, from what you say, that that will also be too much.​
What about 2 lets call then walk/runs a week and then a lot more row+dips+chins cardio, and only walks if it feels good? ​
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#22
nothing wrong with walking while you run if you need to. just be careful of falling into "must do x distance" thinking. try following time on feet over distance training. how long or far you'll have to figure out. hopefully before you get hurt.
 
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NickW said:
7 km is really far when brand new to this kind of running. In miles for those of you that don't know, that is about 4 and 1/3 miles at a time. Generally we recommend a mile tops, or 1.60934 km. I was able to do a mile and a half, but that is pretty abnormal. I do hope you listen to us and not try to do too much because you are in such good shape in all your other muscles. Muscles will adapt pretty fast, but bone takes some time.
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I would say it varies depending of the background. Like the amount of shoes used daily before and other barefoot activities, like martial arts.. I would suggest reducing amount of running if you get sore, not before.
 
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Ok, that sounds good, Flammee :)

I did a walk/run today.
Loved it!

Everything except my calves and feet have never felt better when running and I feel like I can go on forever. My calves and feet are having a tough time. I do stop running when I the calves and feet tell me to, and I will also rest now untill I can do it again.
Just wanted you to know that I have rested since my first walk/run Thursday last week and today everything felt great again and it went really good.
 
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Line Kolbe said:
Ok, that sounds good, Flammee :)

I did a walk/run today.
Loved it!

Everything except my calves and feet have never felt better when running and I feel like I can go on forever. My calves and feet are having a tough time. I do stop running when I the calves and feet tell me to, and I will also rest now untill I can do it again.
Just wanted you to know that I have rested since my first walk/run Thursdag last week and today everything felt great again and it want really good.
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Good girl:cool:
 
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Line Kolbe said:
And today I'm sore.
So sore in my calves, Achilles and in my feet. So I'll rest and do some row-dips-chins cardio in the gym.
I look forward to being able to start the day with a run every day. I love that..
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That day will come just have patience.
 
#28
Line Kolbe said:
And today I'm sore.
So sore in my calves, Achilles and in my feet. So I'll rest and do some row-dips-chins cardio in the gym.
I look forward to being able to start the day with a run every day. I love that..
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Hello my Danish/Swedish cousin (my father's side is from Ystad). Make sure to massage your calves and shin muscles before and after each run. I didn't realize the importance of this practice for a whole year, but it really helps. You can use a rolling pin, your fingers, 'the stick' (http://www.amazon.com/The-Stick-Little-colors-vary/dp/B001O0H436/ref=pd_sim_sg_11), a Knobble, or an electric massager, but you must do this. It will relieve the soreness and help prevent top-of-the-foot-pain in the tendons of your feet, which are of course connected to your lower leg muscles. Skol (skål)!
 
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Bare Lee said:
You can use a rolling pin, your fingers, 'the stick' (http://www.amazon.com/The-Stick-Little-colors-vary/dp/B001O0H436/ref=pd_sim_sg_11), a Knobble, or an electric massager, but you must do this. It will relieve the soreness and help prevent top-of-the-foot-pain in the tendons in your feet, which are of course connected to your lower leg muscles. Skol (skål)!
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I'll also add that tennis balls and golf balls can do some good work. Lacrosse balls are also reputed to work well, but I've never had one to try and since I'm lazy and cheap, I just started using the tennis balls and golf balls that were already around home.
 
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Line, the key is to listen to your body. Anything you would call "pain" is your body telling you to immediately stop doing what you've been doing and give it a rest.

"Soreness" however, is normal. It will take your body several months to almost a year to acclimate to the new running dynamics.

And, oh by the way, you shouldn't be running in any shoes as they remove the road feel you desperately need during your transition. You mentioned earlier that you went for a run down your road and it hurt, so you came back. What, specifically, hurt? Anyone, using proper form, should be able to run on "normal" asphalt or road surface without pain for at least a short distance (1/4-1/2 of a mile or it's metric equivalent). Sole conditioning will come with time and exposure (pardon the pun) but the muscles and tendons will take some time. DON'T RUSH IT!

JMHO.
 
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