First couple hundred Yards; on Vid!

#21
Congrats, Mike. Keep it up.

Might I make a small suggestion if you don't mind? Turn your cadence up a notch or two. It seems a bit slow for a beginner. Shoot for about 180 foot-falls per minute and then adjust from there to what suits you better. I'm actually a 176ish kind of runner just by comparison (not that anyone HAS to do anything...). The quicker turnover will keep your feet under your body and prevent over-striding and pushing off which is a common mistake for newbies.

Cheers.

PILOTRUNNER
 
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#22
pilotrunner said:
... Turn your cadence up a notch or two. ...
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Pilot - I think it's a good idea, too, but I think it's important to point out that the strides themselves should be much, much shorter when ppl bump up the turnover rate. Otherwise, you end up with someone simply running faster, which is really not what Mike needs now.

What I think he mostly needs is to just cross over the line from walking to running. Super, super slow pace, really short steps, like baby steps. And when he starts to feel winded, first see how slow he can run before breaking it off and walking.

PS, Mike:

Walking = leading foot touches the ground before the trailing foot is lifted ie there's always at least one foot on the ground and sometimes both

Running = both feet never touch the ground at the same time
 
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BFwillie_g said:
Pilot - I think it's a good idea, too, but I think it's important to point out that the strides themselves should be much, much shorter when ppl bump up the turnover rate. Otherwise, you end up with someone simply running faster, which is really not what Mike needs now.
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I don't mean to be insulting...

But...

I kind of thought that was common sense...
 
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pilotrunner said:
I don't mean to be insulting...
But...I kind of thought that was common sense...
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nope, it's not. Especially with someone like Mike who has little to no experience running. But really, with lot's of people. It's come up often enough. And even if it does seem obvious to him (or anyone else), actually implementing the techniques can be tricky. He may think he's doing it right but his body isn't doing what his mind envisons is happening.
 
#26
pilotrunner said:
The best "starting advice" I ever got was to run in place with a 180 cadence then lean forward...SHAZAM!!!!YOU'RE BAREFOOT RUNNING
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lol, was that me who wrote that? I've written that for years at rwol. And when running in place, make sure the heels are coming up first and the toes/balls are landing first, and that the heels actually do touch down ... lift=heel/toe; landing=toe/heel.

I know, lol, seems obvious, but if you don't point that out, (some) people (can) end up dorsiflexing. The devil is in the details ... :cool:

I've pretty much given up writing about this stuff though because it turns in to a can of worms.
 
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Yeah, my previous running experience really is sort of shambling along at great need. I don't actually have much in the way of common sense about these things. I lost all my weight by diet, see. I have always been more the couch potato. Dig the above video of just 18 months ago and you can see the formless form of my running in steel toed boots.
 
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Mike Heywood said:
I'm just not keeping it up. It has been kind of cold and wet, is my only excuse, but I'm trying to run a bit at least with the old sneakers on. I do find I cannot get my feet comfy in new shoes, though.
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The first few weeks or months of getting (back) into shape are the hardest. Your body will beg to go back to the couch. But after a while, it will beg to go outside and run, like a six-month-old puppy. You'll feel better, have more energy, have a better mood, be able to concentrate more, and so on. You just have to get through this first bit, don't give in/up!

As for running form advice, as Willie said, it's a bit of a can of worms. My advice, based on no coaching experience and being an average runner at best, is just to assume a good, relaxed athletic posture and run (with your shoes off). Then run a bit faster so that your body is forced to economize its movements. See how that feels, and then try to translate that feeling to more sustainable, slower paces.
 
#34
My kids rode their bikes to the park for the Easter egg hunt and I ran and walked along. I fell behind pretty far on the way home as my busted back started aching (upper back so it's only holding up my head and shoulders), but I stripped off the shoes and socks about 200 yards out and barefooted in. Probably saved myself a blister doing that.
 
#36
Been a while since I checked in. My back is still awful, and for quite a while I was leary of getting out and doing anything, but I have had enough of that, so this morning I did get outside and walked a mile barefoot over aboput half new and half old concrete sidewalks with a few macadam streets to cross. In some of the old concrete spots, I had to take to the grass on the side, but I got through my mile and even ran a couple hundred yards when I got back on the nice new smoothe stuff. It made my feet a little sore but unhurt and it was so good to get out there.

And in other news, because of my diet alone, mostly, I am down to 206 pounds, which is finally in the "Healthy" BMI range. Now I move from the losing phase to the maintainance phase of my eating plan.

I also discovered a new old book to look at called "The Artist's Way" by Julia Cameron, and I'm trying that out as well.
 
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