MT100s

[snowshoe_hare]

Anyone have any thoughts about the MT100s?

I just got a pair to break in for super technical trail running / racing.....

First thought.... who are they STIFF.....

Next... they are pretty light and low profile for a shoe... from a major shoe company...

I have a few miles on them.... not bad.... more to come...

Anyone?

 

[mokaman]

 I have a pair I bought for

I have a pair I bought for my son and I had plans to race only in them. Both my son and I deemed them way too built up to be useable so I modified them by cutting off the outsole and trimming as much cush as possible and glueing some extra rock plating on the back half then glueing the outsole back on. A lot of work but I wanted to try this on some shoe I liked the uppers on, this was the one. Now they are great, about 12 mm high, flat and still have enough protection for racing. My son has been wearing them on all his trail and some pavement runs and really likes them. I might wear them in a trail half marathon in a few weeks. Last week we ran a very muddy rocky trail that I was sliding around on with Vibrams, my son said the MT100's were solid on that run, best traction he ever had.

I would try to find a shoe repair shop to level the heel lift out of your pair if possible. Within a few months there should be some new models out that will be flat already from the store.

 

[snowshoe_hare]

Good call.... I'm going to

Good call.... I'm going to check into... getting the Mt100s modified...

I do not like the elevated heel either... It's MUCH better than my old shoes but... yeah....



I'm wondering how much something like this will cost....

???

 

[mokaman]

snowshoe_hare wrote:Good

Good call.... I'm going to check into... getting the Mt100s modified...

I do not like the elevated heel either... It's MUCH better than my old shoes but... yeah....



I'm wondering how much something like this will cost....

???

I've read on other forums anywhere from $20 - $50 varies widely plus it maybe hard to find a place....most shoe places are doing the opposite to shoes...making them thicker not thinner. Part of why I chopped mine myself was the local shoe shops just didn't want to do it or were bewildered why I would want to ruin my shoes. You never know you may find somewhere for a reasonable amount, I wouldn't pay more than say $25 or so myself.

 

[BFwillie_g]

mokaman wroteart of why I

Part of why I chopped mine myself was the local shoe shops just didn't want to do it or were bewildered why I would want to ruin my shoes.

Can you please give a few details as to how exactly you removed the outer sole and especially how you glued it back on?

I have this expensive salmon knife that I think would work well for slicing off a sole (HA!), but I wouldn't know what kind of adhesive or gluing method would work for the re-attachment. I'd expect the shoe to be stiffer afterwards. I mean, after *I* do it.

I'm working up to making some mocassins and would like to attach a thin outer sole for traction.

Tia :smile:

 

[mokaman]

I would recommend you try to

I would recommend you try to get a shop to do it, you could easily ruin the shoes.

Basically you draw a line on the sole where you want to cut it all the way around then saw away and carefully follow the line. The big problem is cutting evenly, if its uneven then the shoes will feel lumpy, this maybe hit or miss. I cut just above the rubber outsole and then again just below the upper. You have to be very very careful along the upper as not to cut into the inside of the shoe. You will have pick off the bits of foam still stuck on the upper as best you can but I didn't worry about every speck.

For gluing the outsole back onto the upper I used Barg cement in a tube from the hardware store, its the best for this kind of thing, its what shoe repair shops use. As you know the front half of these shoes have a rock plate in them, I cut out and glued my own rock plate from a piece of flexible cutting board, cost less than a dollar.

These shoes work very well, have good rock protection, are light 7 oz. and are way more flexible than before...they are roughly about 10mm thick.

 

[BFwillie_g]

Thanks Moka - I have some

Thanks Moka - I have some *ahem* motion-control shoes to practice on. Always did want to see what was inside those expensive little air bags and gel pads.

I'll shop around for the German equivalent of Barg cement

 

[snowshoe_hare]

Ha!  I took the hack saw to

Ha! I took the hack saw to an old pair of running shoes.... VERY interesting... I'm passing them on to Jason for educational purposes...



I can see the gel pads providing some shock absorption for heel strikers.... BUT I THINK it's mostly a load of SH!T!



I really think shoe companies have made fancy shoes to make money PERIOD. Oh and make sure you buy them often!



I just saw a good quote... to paraphrase "Shoe companies work to solve the problem they created.."



hahaha hah aa hahha h ahahha Oh, how much have I spent on blasted shoes in the past???? Not any more!!!!!

;o)



LET ME KNOW HOW THE SHOE EXPERIMENTS GO, eh?!?!? I may try this on an old pair too... I'll report back............................................

 

[Barefoot TJ]

"Shoe companies work to solve

"Shoe companies work to solve the problem they created.."

Brilliant!

 

[BFwillie_g]

snowshoe_hare wrote:I really

I really think shoe companies have made fancy shoes to make money PERIOD. Oh and make sure you buy them often!

Big time - I was at an all-day meeting with the Nike Bowerman team a few years ago. They wanted input from small-town specialist shops in Germany and I happened to be helping out at one at the time. What a joke. The only thing they wanted to know was what they should change on their shoes to get people to buy them - not a word about what's best for runners.

Their philosophy is, "A shoe has to sell itself in the first five seconds". Five seconds, that's all the time they really want you spend making the decision. Everything they do goes into creating shoes that "the customer doesn't want to take off", meaning - cushy and "supportive". Their concern was things like, "should the technical bits be more visible, or should we go for a simpler look?", "Does the name [Vomero] seem appropriate for your customer base?".

 

[Barefoot TJ]

and

:cash: and :crazy:

 

[Jimmy Hart]

 i had the same thing with

i had the same thing with adidas back in the day but they were a little more performance minded than that. they wanted them to feel and look good but they also wanted to make sure they had a good running shoe.

 

[snowshoe_hare]

I am excited to see what New

I am excited to see what New Balance comes out with next... The Minimus should be interesting...



They want to sell them.... so... I guessing more on the side of shoe than NOT... but maybe we'll be PLEASANTLY SURPRISED, eh?!!?