Maffetone Method...what's your experience with it?

My big book of endurance

My big book of endurance training and racing finally got here today, took quite awhile with Amazon for some reason this time. Looking forward to reading and seeing what maybe some of you are forgetting to mention or just not mentioning. Sometimes it's the little things that make things make sense for me.
 
haha! he said little things.

haha! he said little things.
 
I don't know, but he needs to

I don't know, but he needs to GROW UP! :stare:
 
i'm done growing up. puberty

i'm done growing up. puberty ended a long time ago. i've just been growing out and am trying trying to grow back in?



back to topic. i ran the same trail i've been hitting the past few weeks. i ran at an easier pace so my hr only went over twice. funny thing is i had a much easier time, had more energy, and my times were nearly the same as when i was pushing a higher hr. go figure. can i really have adapted to that trail in two weeks time? or three whatever it was? if so i like it.
 
Wow, I didn't see that there

Wow, I didn't see that there were new posts in this thread. In any case, I've tried a little to reduce my reliance on grains and beans but find that it's too expensive to eat that way for me since I'm also trying to eat mostly organic. So for now I'm cutting out wheat and most gluten and lowering carbs overall.
 
Somehow I read that you were

Somehow I read that you were trying to reduce your reliance on garlic and beans. I couldn't figure it out, but I thought the neighbors were probably appreciative ... :bigsmile:
 
HopesMom wrote:Somehow I

HopesMom said:
Somehow I read that you were trying to reduce your reliance on garlic and beans. I couldn't figure it out, but I thought the neighbors were probably appreciative ... :bigsmile:

Ha,ha, you just gave me an idea how to keep some pesky neighbors at a distance, and no, I'd never give up garlic, I use if for almost anything except dessert. :)
 
ok i had a problem last week

ok i had a problem last week and lets see if the borg collective can give me a good answer.

last wednesday i went for a trail run and kept a good pace bf. on friday it was cold and wet so i layered up and wore some TGs. i couldn't keep any sort of pace. my hr shot up anytime i got moving. on wed i went uphill with maybe once going over my hr but on fri with shoes it was non stop no matter where i was. up, down, flat(ish).



what gives? all the layers? the shoes? i was seeing progression but this day was a big setback. i'd like to go run the trail again tomorrow or by saturday for sure. if it stays warm and raining i'll be bf.
 
migangelo wrote:eek:k i had a

migangelo said:
ok i had a problem last week and lets see if the borg collective can give me a good answer.



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Cause of descrepancy: assimilation not yet complete. Expect full compliance of correct parameters when assimilation completed. Welcome aboard. beep.
 
ok i found the long thread and am pulling it up to the front. looks like the pic above this post didn't transfer well.

i ran today on the trails bf, in heavy rain at an average a little below my maf pace. feel and felt great. it felt much easier than two weeks ago when i ran the same course. last time i passed out for over two hours. today i cleaned, groomed the dog, and i'm procrastinating on my homework.:D
 
Just received The Maff Method book yesterday, started reading it this evening. Hoping to get some good info on increasing my endurance as I work through E25K to build up my running.
 
I have been using the MAF approach for much of my running since August last year. My goals are simply to enjoy injury-free barefoot running and to earn extra endurance for running the Marine Corps Marathon in October. For a long lifer like me the HR is relatively low and the pace slow. Sample improvements from August to now are....

Aug May Improvement
Mile 9.00 7:50 1.10
5K 28.00 25.00 3.oo
7.5 Miles 1.37.00 1.20.00 17.00

This morning I will be running a 9 mile test at a sub 130 heart rate. Looking forward to seeing if there have been any gains at this very low heart rate.
 
i just did a test last week, my fifth and my times dropped to the same as my second. it sucks when i saw improvement and now that i'm racing y times drop? doesn't seem right. i thought with speed work, strength training, and racing that my times would improve or at least stay the same.
 
Most Aerobic Function running is helping as shown by barefoot runs last week. Mad mile pace has gone from around 9:00 to 7:50, 5K pace has gone from 9:20 to 8:20. Recently ran 7.5 miles at 143 BPM at a 10.40 pace making it 2 minutes faster than in August when I ran 7.5 miles at 144 BPM at a 12.57 pace. Today pleased with progress on 9 mile, sub 130 BPM. Shaved more than 2 minutes per mile from a 15.44 in August to 13.38 pace today. Long way to go but I am loving every minute of this progress, injury free and inspired with each run.
 
barefootmarc, that's some nice improvement. Congrats.

I've been doing Maff since Jan and taken my average km pace over my normal 10km run from 10:30min/km to 7:20km/km. Still pretty darn slow but a great improvement since I've not been doing any speed work at all. That's also with having all of April off too due to a non running related back injury.

I'm loving it and hope to get back to my best pre Maff pace of 5:45min/km in the not too distant future.
 
barefootmarc, that's some nice improvement. Congrats.

I've been doing Maff since Jan and taken my average km pace over my normal 10km run from 10:30min/km to 7:20km/km. Still pretty darn slow but a great improvement since I've not been doing any speed work at all. That's also with having all of April off too due to a non running related back injury.

I'm loving it and hope to get back to my best pre Maff pace of 5:45min/km in the not too distant future.
Congrats on your progress. Another thing I find is that even longer runs, 10 miles or so leave me energized and refreshed when running in the MAF zone. Good luck with your progress.
 
3 min improvement? eff off!! damn!
Just goes to show how much I needed to improve. Still a long way to go. I am now mainly running at a target 135 and will do so through May and June then I need to kick it up to a lot of speed work for a 4 afternoon rowing event that kicked my butt last year. All the best.
 
3 min improvement? eff off!! damn!
I think it shows that those with the weakest aerobic systems to begin with will very likely see the best improvements with this type of training. At least to begin with. The fact my PB for 10km was just about 52 mins prior to starting Maff training but I could only do 10:30min/km pace when keeping in the aerobic zone shows me just how poor my aerobic system really was.

I'd love to bang out a 10km now pushing as hard as I could just to see how I go but I'm committed to sticking to this until I at least reach an average 6min/km pace no matter how long that takes. Then I'll enter a few races and see how I go.