Interesting visit to the Podiatrist.

Barefoot Gentile

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So a month ago I really tweaked my foot, sprained the tendons and what not. We took x-rays today, no stresss facture, in fact he said my feet bone density is extremely solid, which I hope is a good thing. I just started running again yesterday, did 3 miles but stopped because it was painful. On my left foot the tendon on the inside of the foot that wraps under the ankle and into the foot, is still really shot. He told me something interesting that I have to learn landing differently, more on the outside of the foot, because when I am landing my foot is turning outward therefore causing that tendon to twist and strain. (He didn't watch me run, it's his personal anaylsis which to me makes sense)

So we get to the question, and he asked what kind of shoes I run in, I said barefoot. He instantly said stop doing that and put some trainers on if you want to run again. He is a young doctor, extremely nice, but totally against barefoot running, and minimal footwear.

But the source of my injury is either running, or when I was jumping over lawn furniture with my son and jumping off the picnic table like a mad man. I am going to say jumping over lawn furniture, at 40 years old, that stuff needs to stop. Anyways 2 years of running barefoot I never had this problem, but he said it just could of been building up and finally hit me. So I have two options run with shoes again, yes I am actually thinking about it, or work on my foot plant with the left foot.

I guess the point of my story is when you visit a podiatrist who is against barefoot running, you feel kind of defeated coming out of the office.
 
Gentile, you'll find what's

Gentile, you'll find what's right for you, although hopefully you won't go back to those built up running shoes. My sister in law just got out of school two years ago and has a major in infectious diseases along with her doctorate(sp?). I think med schools try to scare the bejeesus out of students because she freaks herself out over stuff that most of us wouldn't bat an eye at. It's really interesting to see how worked up she and her fiance get (he's got all the same degrees she does). I think maybe older doctors may be more accepting of barefoot lifestyles than younger because they've been exposed to more real life situations and were around before built up shoes than young doctors who only have book knowledge and have only known built up thick shoes. Besides, studies on barefoot running are so new and ongoing that the younger doctors haven't been taught this stuff yet. Just a theory I have.
 
Nick,  I don't see myself

Nick, I don't see myself going back to "traditional shoes" at all. I really think I hurt my foot being foolish with the lawn furniture jumping. I spent so much time into barefoot running, that I can never change now. Plus I love it too much!

I can totally understand why your sister-n-law is like that, sometimes all this information is just too much and really gets the mind thinking. But after my visit the first person I thought about was Dr. Lieberman, and thank goodness for someone like him who is on our side.
 
It sucks getting older huh

It sucks getting older huh Gentile? I'm only 34 but I notice many more aches and pains now and there are many things I just can't do like when I was younger. I agree that all the information med students are taught is probably very overwhelming and could make one afraid of nearly everything.
 
With the distances that you

With the distances that you used to run, I severely doubt it was "building up". We aren't just slowly breaking our feet doing this stuff. So I agree with your assessment of how you got your injury...at least from what I know...which is not much.

I remember seeing the sports doc about an ankle issue and having him try to stick me in orthodics. Of course I told him I was against that idea. But for a second, I almost considered doing it. When you're dealing with a doctor it's hard to be logical, because in that relationship you expect them to have all the answers. The doctor-patient relationship is very coercive.

It's caused me to be very careful about the doctors that I see. Who knows what other lines of crap I've been fed and I don't even know it.

Good luck with the healing process. I know it's been a hard one for you.
 
I just can't see how this

I just can't see how this injury could have been "just building up" if you haven't had any problems along the way. I don't buy that.

As far as podiatrists, I think its been ingrained in them that it's about orthodics and inserts, anything else is not good. I have a friend whose a podiatrist, when I told her I started barefoot running she seemed shocked and wondered about the bottom of my feet. Then she admitted she knew nothing about barefoot running.

Another podiatrist I know gets a monetary cut of any insert he gets people in. He gets that money once a year as like a bonus and one year was bragging that his share for prescribing inserts was over $10,000.
 
NickW:  Yes it does suck!   I

NickW: Yes it does suck! I was going hard until 39, once I turned 40 I really started feeling my body change, and being 41 next month, changing even more! But you know I am really embracing it, and getting old doesn't bother me to be honest, I just have to make adjustments.



Saypay: thanks man. I don't agree at with his "build up approach" I was going to go into my history and miles that I have achieved barefoot, but held back it would of proved nothing and I wasn't there to battle him. And yes I agree it is hard being logical but I get their point as well. I am getting there! At least I can actually running, a little.



Shaun: Agree!
 
Why not take time off from

Why not take time off from running and other activity (as much as possible) and allow yourself to truly heal before you make any drastic changes?

Speedy healing.
 
Shaun Mac wrote:Another

Shaun Mac said:
Another podiatrist I know gets a monetary cut of any insert he gets people in. He gets that money once a year as like a bonus and one year was bragging that his share for prescribing inserts was over $10,000.

Wow, just wow. And these people are the ones who are supposedly looking out for our health. I would say there is a slight conflict of interest there. Wow.
 
They all make huge money off

They all make huge money off of orthotics. It's a large source of their income. But the problem is they don't work for most people. Why else do most insurance companies not cover them? Is it because they have already learned that they don't work?
 
Gentile, it sounds like it's

Gentile, it sounds like it's time to fire your podiatrist. You know how you injured yourself. It was not by running barefoot. In fact, he said "my feet bone density is extremely solid".



I have learned through my own health issues (non BFR related) that you have to advocate for yourself! You know what is best for you. So many times, doctors have this knee jerk reaction of this is the only treatment because that's how we learned it in med school (a nice little kickback from orthotics makers is nice too).
 
This discussion reminds me of

This discussion reminds me of something I heard once about Chinese doctors (hopefully true).

Chinese doctors don't get paid for treating sick patients. The patients pay only when they are healthy.

The analogy would be that the doc only gets his "insert bonus", when he figures out how to get people away from the inserts.
 
After the doctor who did my

After the doctor who did my cryosurgery came to grips with the understanding that my surgery had failed, he sent me a full refund for my portion of the bill, without my even having to ask him. I think he just felt so bad that he was not able to help me and that I was actually worse after it. I think he really cared.
 
Anytime I speak to a doctor,

Anytime I speak to a doctor, I remind myself of the following things:

1. They're just human.

2. They have just as many biases and misunderstanding as any normal person.

3. They're only one opinion among billions of people on this planet.

Find me two doctors and I'll find you something they disagree about.



Sorry that happened to you though. I had a somewhat similar experience when I was trying to explain to my former doctor (I went elsewhere after this incident.) that a medication I was on was making me ill. I asked repeatedly for a lower dosage and was told, repeatedly, that I was just getting used to the meds. After a trip to the emergency room, that could have quite easily killed me and/or left me paralyzed, I called to let him know I'd stopped taking the medication and would like him to release my medical records to my new physician.

Bottom line - listen to your body. What makes more sense - that you hurt yourself running barefoot (something you've been doing since the time you were little) or jumping off/around/through furniture in the yard? I know where my vote would be cast. :)

Hope you heal quickly!
 

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