Optimal strength training for runners

http://www.westside-barbell.com/art...gate-method/340-general-physical-preparedness

Sled pulls, seems like it might be a nice complimentary lift to weighted walks. I might pick one up when and try it out. Maybe I could use it as a warmup on my morning walk.
I got that harness just before my MCL began acting up this last summer. Never used it, although it is my intention to work in hills and/or sled pulls once or twice a week after the daily 5K has become well-established. Maybe I can use the harness in the snow, pulling the kids?

I didn't really like weighted walks, and I've stopped the run/walk commutes, but I think I'll use the vest for hyperextensions and maybe some ground/mobility work.

This week I'll continue with the daily runs, keep working the squats and deadlifts back in, and hopefully really get going on a daily mobility routine. Have you heard of the concept of "fillers"? It's just doing mobility stuff in between sets. Seems like a good idea, kind of like supersetting, except you pair a mobility exercise with the main lift instead of a complementary lift.
 
Sled pulls up a hill with kids sounds like a great idea. I've never done light pulls but I may give them a try. Why didnot you like the weighted walks?

No I hadn't heard of fillers. Seems like a good strategy to a get some mobility work in.
 
Why did not you like the weighted walks?
I don't know. I don't like walking that much anyway, unless it's hiking out in a natural landscape. I used to walk a lot in urban landscapes while traveling but that's different. In any case, I've stopped the walk-/run-commutes for the time being. I think the vest will be most useful for hyperextensions and, perhaps latter, weighted inverted rows and pullups. I'm also thinking of using it for some groundwork, like get-ups or something.
 
I googled "weight lifting fillers" and one of the results was this.
http://slimcelebrity.com/plastic-su...r-photos-facelift-eyelid-surgery-and-fillers/

Scary stuff. I'm not sure that it's for me.
Christie-Brinkley-Plastic-Surgery-Before-and-After-Photos-Face-Lift-Eyelid-Surgery-and-Fillers-2.jpg


But, seriously. Fillers look like they're for meatheads who aren't physically active.
http://www.t-nation.com/training/fillers-strength-with-mobility

Six days a week, I start the day with a run or swim. It keeps me pretty mobile. I don't stretch or foam roll anymore. Sometimes I use a neck massager, but that's probably due to my desk job. Maybe I've achieved Sock Doc nirvana?
 
I googled "weight lifting fillers" and one of the results was this.
http://slimcelebrity.com/plastic-su...r-photos-facelift-eyelid-surgery-and-fillers/

Scary stuff. I'm not sure that it's for me.
Christie-Brinkley-Plastic-Surgery-Before-and-After-Photos-Face-Lift-Eyelid-Surgery-and-Fillers-2.jpg


But, seriously. Fillers look like they're for meatheads who aren't physically active.
http://www.t-nation.com/training/fillers-strength-with-mobility

Six days a week, I start the day with a run or swim. It keeps me pretty mobile. I don't stretch or foam roll anymore. Sometimes I use a neck massager, but that's probably due to my desk job. Maybe I've achieved Sock Doc nirvana?
I dunno, DNECHris is older than me, and he never stretches. But in my case, I never had trouble with shoulder mobility before, and now active massage and stretching/mobility has been my nirvana. I also find rolling the arches, lower leg, and upper leg is crucial for maintaining my running health. When I was just ten years younger, I could run five miles, 3x a week without any maintenance whatsoever. I think yoga or some kind of stretching/massage is key for a lot of people as they age.

My only objection to the Soc Doc is that he tries to make people like me feel bad about doing what they need to do to stay healthy. Unconscionable, in my opinion, for a medical professional (OK, chiropractor) to come down so strongly on an controversial issue. Lately I've been working on doing the splits again and I have to say, I feel considerably more spry and limber now. I think it improves my "energy flow" as well.

So, as always, follow your bliss, but in between sets I've been digging into my shoulder joint and I no longer get those pains post-workout like I use to. If that's a filler, I'm all for fillers. I'm an old fart who can do three full-body workouts a week.

Who's the woman? I can't tell any difference between the photos. Except the one on the left looks like she'd be more pleasant to be around.

Did you use it? Push out before you lift.
No, shipping sometime this week: Elitefts™ Premium 13mm P2 Power Belt - A-DPLB10-L
I figure if I'm going to get serious about squats, mis' well do it right. I couldn't help myself, I read up a bit more about the belt debate, and the case for belts is pretty convincing. Don't know if I'll use it for deadlifts. Thoughts? Basically, my DL strain following up on a running niggle showed me that before my deadlifts can get stronger, my quads and hammies probably need to get stronger. So I'm thinking of starting each workout now with squats.
 
I'm definitely for stretching and massaging, but I wonder if the need to do so is a sign of not being well-balanced in terms of strength/activity?

For example, whenever I start a new activity, I definitely need to massage and stretch. My body is not accustomed to the movement. Though after a period of time, 2-3 years of running, 1-1.5 years of swimming, 1 year of lifting, it seems that volume of massaging and stretching, that is necessary, has decreased substantially. Admittedly, I don't do any of these activities with a specific training goal in mind other than gradual improvement.

If I get overeager and make a substantial push in an activity, then that does start a new cycle of adaption which necessitates more stretching and massaging.
 
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Ya gotta remember, and I've told you before, I stretch when I yawn :p
Maybe that's my problem, I rarely yawn!

I'm definitely for stretching and massaging, but I wonder if the need to do so is a sign of not being well-balanced in terms of strength/activity?

For example, whenever I start a new activity, I definitely need to massage and stretch. My body is not accustomed to the movement. Though after a period of time, 2-3 years of running, 1-1.5 years of swimming, 1 year of lifting, it seems that volume of massaging and stretching, that is necessary, has decreased substantially. Admittedly, I don't do any of these activities with a specific training goal in mind other than gradual improvement.

If I get overeager and make a substantial push in an activity, then that does start a new cycle of adaption which necessitates more stretching and massaging.
Yah, I think during the period of adaptation stretching and massaging are more critical, and a lesson I often forget when getting back into shape, but for me, now, at my age, it's also become important for general maintenance and prevention. I think it's just age. Old meat gets tough and chewy. Myofascial adhesions and trigger points become more common.

I've lifted and run before, but never had to think about this stuff then, even when getting into shape. Just wasn't a problem. That's why it's taken me so long to recognize the problem and really take the massaging/stretching seriously. I keep thinking it's just a temporary issue, but eventually, I'll be able to go back to just lifting and running.

The good news is that, once the big trigger points and/or adhesions have been ironed out, I'm finding that the amount of time required for maintenance has been greatly reduced. A couple of times a day, 5-10 minutes each time, seems to take care of it, along with a few 'fillers' while I'm lifting, and a little stretching sometimes while I'm running. Sometimes when I'm driving or having dinner or sitting at my desk I'll also massage my shoulder or outer thighs, seems to help.
 
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No, shipping sometime this week: Elitefts™ Premium 13mm P2 Power Belt - A-DPLB10-L
I figure if I'm going to get serious about squats, mis' well do it right. I couldn't help myself, I read up a bit more about the belt debate, and the case for belts is pretty convincing. Don't know if I'll use it for deadlifts. Thoughts? Basically, my DL strain following up on a running niggle showed me that before my deadlifts can get stronger, my quads and hammies probably need to get stronger. So I'm thinking of starting each workout now with squats.

I'm not sure but it won't hurt to use it for both in my opinion.
My belt digs into my ribs when I squat deep so I don't use it for squats much. Plus I never push them anymore either? Maybe I'll give it another try and see how it feels.
 
I'm not sure but it won't hurt to use it for both in my opinion.
My belt digs into my ribs when I squat deep so I don't use it for squats much. Plus I never push them anymore either? Maybe I'll give it another try and see how it feels.
Supposedly it helps develop the abdominal stabilizers, so even with it off, you can lift more after using it for some time. I hope I didn't make a mistake by getting the thick one.

Edit: I think I will switch the order to the 6.5mm belt. Will probably work better for Deadlifts. If I eventually want something stiffer for squats, I can get another belt.
 
Supposedly it helps develop the abdominal stabilizers, so even with it off, you can lift more after using it for some time. I hope I didn't make a mistake by getting the thick one.

Edit: I think I will switch the order to the 6.5mm belt. Will probably work better for Deadlifts. If I eventually want something stiffer for squats, I can get another belt.

It's probably a good idea, mine irritates me because it's too thick, its 10 CM wide and 9mm thick and its still not worn in. 6.5mm sounds perfect. You will probably like the single prong better too.
 
It's probably a good idea, mine irritates me because it's too thick, its 10 CM wide and 9mm thick and its still not worn in. 6.5mm sounds perfect. You will probably like the single prong better too.
Thanks for the feedback, that helps me decide. Elite FTS has terrible customer service though. I've been trying to reach them since I placed the order on Saturday, as I gave them the wrong zip code. If I want to get a 10mm belt, I'll probably go with BestBelts, get a purple one for the Minnesota Vikings/Prince theme: http://www.bestbelts.net/Powerlifting-Belts/Athlete.aspx.
 
Thanks for the feedback, that helps me decide. Elite FTS has terrible customer service though. I've been trying to reach them since I placed the order on Saturday, as I gave them the wrong zip code. If I want to get a 10mm belt, I'll probably go with BestBelts, get a purple one for the Minnesota Vikings/Prince theme: http://www.bestbelts.net/Powerlifting-Belts/Athlete.aspx. [/quote]

They are another one of those companies like Rogue that I have been hesitant to deal with. I bought an ebook from them once and had a problem but that was quickly corrected by them. The price for that belt is really good right now though. I'd be interested in how you like it. I think 13cm might be a little too big for me though, that 3in one they have at best belts looks pretty good too.
 
Just got a tracking notice saying delivery is scheduled for tomorrow. I gave them my office address but home zip code. It'll be interesting to see if it arrives or if it's sent back to them. The latter instance would save me the return shipping. I'll order the 6.5mm belt as soon as the status of the first order has been cleared up.

The percentages worked really well yesterday afternoon, btw. So now it's the 6x2x5x80% plan, or the L'Abide 625/80 plan? I really like the full-body workouts. At this point, it would be hard to imagine going back to splits.
 
Heh that's a mouthful. Mine is technically 7 lifts. I am dedicated to the farmers. I still need to pull 180 I might try at the end of November and again when I am back in the states in December. Hopefully I can get it by then.

I think working in the 90% range volumes should be low 3 reps maybe? So 85% = 10 reps or 3x 3?
 
Yeah I like the full body thing too i also am glad you got me doing more upper lifts and back work in particular I lime having some flexibility there too. THe bench and press are plenty for my chest shoulders and triceps I am seeing some good development there. We should organize this program some once we have more data from the 80% trial.
 

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