Mileage Reporting 32nd Week of 2013

:shy: I have actually already found that page and read it..
I do know it though, how it works.. I know that muscles recover and get used to new use and stress much much faster than tendons and bones. A muscle is fully recovered in a week, tendons may take a month, and bones months.. I also know how the muscles in the lower leg are connected to tendons in the foot.
I also know about over use injuries (been there, done that - with my knee for many years ago)
I get all that. And I do know that I need to rest more. I know :inpain:
It's so damn hard to rest! o_O:mad:
As he writes: "This may be the toughest of all pills to swallow, especially for someone who has just learned the pure joy of running bare, but rest and time, stretching, and ice will heal this issue, allowing you to get back out there and do what you love."
But I'll be a good girl and rest, stretch, massage, ice it.. all that..
I know what ignorance did to my knee when I didn't listen to it and just kept going.. I won't to it to my feet :)
Cool, I didn't mean to talk down to you, but like I said, I went through this myself, and I've seen others ignore this simple advice (like Nick) despite my blathering on and on about it. Partly because everyone talks about sore calves, but few seem to mention the shin muscles.

I really don't think rest is necessarily necessary if the TOFP hasn't been going on too long and you haven't developed bone fide knots (or as the kids nowadays say, 'trigger points'). Once I started massaging regularly I was good to go within a short time. Right now your tendons are probably somewhat inflamed because of the tension the shin muscles are putting on them, but that should disappear quickly once the muscles are happy again. Anyway, best of luck!
 
Yah, the Macalester area is nice.
Tight reins, yah, but you have to remember she comes from a place where infidelity is rampant. And anyway, being nice is mutually beneficially, like last night . . . :embarrassed:


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Oh I understand where she's coming from and the type of life she had to endure and really, I don't blame her, you know me by now i hope, that I just enjoy giving people hard times.
well, I am glad you had a VERY good time last night:happy:
 
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Cool, I didn't mean to talk down to you, but like I said, I went through this myself, and I've seen others ignore this simple advice (like Nick) despite my blathering on and on about it. Partly because everyone talks about sore calves, but few seem to mention the shin muscles.

I really don't think rest is necessarily necessary if the TOFP hasn't been going on too long and you haven't developed bone fide knots (or as the kids nowadays say, 'trigger points'). Once I started massaging regularly I was good to go within a short time. Right now your tendons are probably somewhat inflamed because of the tension the shin muscles are putting on them, but that should disappear quickly once the muscles are happy again. Anyway, best of luck!


Thank you!
I do really appreciate your advise and that you share what you've learned and experienced :)
Didn't feel talked down to. I'd rather get the advice than be "spared tough talk" so to speak.. you know what I mean.
 
Here's how it works: tendons are connected to muscles. When the muscles aren't happy, the tendons aren't happy. Technically, it's called referred pain. So in your case, you feel the pain in your feet, but the cause is in your lower leg muscles, most probably the shin muscles that control the tendons that pass along the top of your foot.
It's my understanding that referred pain is typically used to describe internal organ pain that is referred to superficial areas, such as angina referred to the arm. The arm hurts, but is actually physically ok, and the heart is the problem.
www.nytimes.com/1997/06/18/us/referred-pain.html
If the the foot hurts due to overstretched tendons due to tight muscles, the physical source of the pain is the overstretched tendon. Stretching the muscle reduces the stretch on the tendon and alleviates the tendon pain.
 
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Did a little over 8 miles on Sunday. Starting to feel more confident with this distance and ready to maybe try something over 9 miles at least once a week. Now that I am signed up for a half marathon in late September, it's time to check out the course. It's going to be a mix of concrete, asphalt, dirt, and maybe even some gravel, so, I'll want to run it at least a couple of times.
 
It's my understanding that referred pain is typically used to describe internal organ pain that is referred to superficial areas, such as angina referred to the arm. The arm hurts, but is actually physically ok, and the heart is the problem.
www.nytimes.com/1997/06/18/us/referred-pain.html
If the the foot hurts due to overstretched tendons due to tight muscles, the physical source of the pain is the overstretched tendon. Stretching the muscle reduces the stretch on the tendon and alleviates the tendon pain.
I dunno, I had never heard of the term until I read up a bit on the trigger point stuff last year, like this: http://www.triggerpoints.net/triggerpoints/extensor-digitorum-and-hallucis-long.htm

I'll be happy to call it something else if this definition is incorrect or marginal to mainstream medical parlance, or if I have misunderstood how the trigger point folks intended its use. As long as folks realize what the problem is (painful tendons caused by tight muscles) and how to cure it (massage and stretch), we can call it whatever we want. Maybe "Aloof Hoof Grief."
 
Anyhow, 1 mile barefoot run this morning, everything feels good.

I really need to figure out something for bowling league nights. Bowling league is about the only thing right now where I wear shoes, and the shoes are getting more uncomfortable the more my toes spread. I'm kind of wondering if as the plantar skin on the ball of the foot gets more smooth and leathery, if it would slide well enough. I haven't tried that yet. Maybe I should design some sort of min-bowling shoe and patent it.
I have some nice Dexter bowling shoes that are not too tight that they are uncomfortable. They are fairly wide, but I can't remember if I had purchased them in the EE size or not.
 
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Cool, I didn't mean to talk down to you, but like I said, I went through this myself, and I've seen others ignore this simple advice (like Nick) despite my blathering on and on about it.
Oh come on now Lee:D , I've never had tofp much unless I've worn vibrams for a run. My pain was pf (plantar fasciitis) and at (achilles tendonitis), and the root cause was in my calves and the muscles along the shin bone both, despite my legs feeling just fine with no soreness. Funny, my legs don't ever seem to get sore but I can sure tell when they are tight because my feet act up and get painful.

On an unrelated note, I woke up this morning to my eye all swollen pretty bad. Shocked me because when I went to bed the swelling wasn't bad at all, just painful. Stupid bee.
 
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Oh come on now Lee:D , I've never had tofp much unless I've worn vibrams for a run. My pain was pf (plantar fasciitis) and at (achilles tendonitis), and the root cause was in my calves and the muscles along the shin bone both, despite my legs feeling just fine with no soreness. Funny, my legs don't ever seem to get sore but I can sure tell when they are tight because my feet act up and get painful.

On an unrelated note, I woke up this morning to my eye all swollen pretty bad. Shocked me because when I went to bed the swelling wasn't bad at all, just painful. Stupid bee.
Yah, just giving you crap, but the general point was how important it is to massage the lower leg muscles to alleviate pain in the foot's tendons, no matter their location. And as we've both noted, you may not even feel sore in the muscles, just a little tight. That's why it took me so long to figure it out; there was no obvious connection between my Aloof Hoof Grief and my lower leg muscles. Everyone talks about soreness, especially in the calves, but just general tightness can have serious consequences too.
Sorry to hear about the bee sting. I hoped you squished it good.

Language evolves.
You starting to sound like a linguist!
 
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Yah, just giving you crap, but the general point was how important it is to massage the lower leg muscles to alleviate pain in the foot's tendons, no matter their location. And as we've both noted, you may not even feel sore in the muscles, just a little tight. That's why it took me so long to figure it out; there was no obvious connection between my Aloof Hoof Grief and my lower leg muscles. Everyone talks about soreness, especially in the calves, but just general tightness can have serious consequences too.
Sorry to hear about the bee sting. I hoped you squished it good.
I knew you were giving me a hard time. Yes we both were a little slow in figuring out our tightness problems. As far as the bee, I'm not sure if I squashed it or threw it. I was trying to hold on to the stroller and stop the stroller while throwing off my visor and my glasses and trying to get the damn bee off my eye. I'm sure it would have been pretty comical to see had I not been the one getting stung. It is weird how my eye swelled up so bad overnight though, but the previous 12 hours it didn't swell very bad.
 
Just wanted to do a shorter change of pace run today...went up to the local High School thought I'd do sprint intervals on the football field but they had "Keep Off The Grass" signs out.

Settled on doing some laps around the track...3 miles only as it was already in the 80's with hi humidity. Ran a warmup mile then a tempo mile then warm down mile...that was enough with the heat....about 22mins total.
 
Now that I've gotten to the point where I can run at least a mile at a time, I've gone back to my log at runningahead and am now keeping track of the miles. I like the new equipment I'm using -- birthday shoes. Hopefully I'll put plenty of miles on them.
 
morning: 7 miles! bona fide trail run (not that mostly flat gravel trail that is a former railroad track near my home), meaning winding paths, gravel, rocks, roots, dirt, sand. wore my sandals. They did fine but slowed me down more than if I had worn more intensely protective shoes. At about 3.5 mi something got in my second pinkie toe and I thought it was a rock lodged in there. Can't see anything, no cut, no blister, no scrape, no visible bruise, but it is throbbing. .

lunch: swim, 1hr 20 min. Arms were fine, but still got tired from the earlier run, so pace was slow and steady. The most tiring thing was pushing off the wall after flip turns, since my thighs were feeling it. Swim still loosened everything up. Nice.